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markuisis 11-13-2007 02:38 AM

Marginal spot in 3bet pot
 
Villain is aggro, running at 24/21, he defends his blinds a lot and seems pretty aggro in 3bet pots although he hasnt shown anything down yet.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $400
MP: $265.70
CO: $737.35
Hero (BTN): $465.50
SB: $393.70
BB: $315.55

Pre-Flop: 10[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $49</font>, Hero calls $35.

Flop: ($102) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $79</font>, Hero calls $79

Turn: ($260) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($260) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $265.70 and is All-In</font>, Hero?

Who shoves flop and if so, what hands do u expect getting called by which we have good equity against? (I dont consider us in good shape versus FD + two overs or even one over). Who shoves turn and y? Finally who calls this river and who calls a blank deuce river? Id like to know what ranges u expect my actions on each street to be +EV versus if u can. Thx.

DanielDayLewis 11-13-2007 02:39 AM

Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot
 
thin fold IMO.

markuisis 11-13-2007 02:40 AM

Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot
 
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thin fold IMO.

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so river could go either way? what if river is an offsuit deuce?

markuisis 11-13-2007 03:03 AM

Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot
 
comments on other parts of the hand?

markuisis 11-13-2007 03:44 AM

Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot
 
bump for a bit more feedback before going to sleep

rand 11-13-2007 03:54 AM

Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot
 
river is pretty marginal
depends on villain i guess but regardless of who it is its close either way

pf and flop are standard, i like a call more than a shove if he can DB bluff obvi

Zimmer4141 11-13-2007 03:58 AM

Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot
 
I think it's a fold. This just looks like AA-JJ that feigned weakness on the turn. He felt like you would fold to a turn shove (which you probably would) and is trying to rep AK here. Against a good regular opponent I fold, against a donk I might call here.

blankoblanco 11-13-2007 04:55 AM

Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot
 
definitely marginal. i'm leaning toward a call as this is something in the AK/AQ/KQ range a lot. main thing is i don't see overpairs checking this turn often when the board is drawy as all [censored]. sucks if his AJ (or like T8s oh snap) hit and he's now valuebetting, but i really feel like a call is right here vs. this guy

markuisis 11-13-2007 12:33 PM

Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot
 
What about the rest of the hand - do u guys play some streets differently? I feel too weak in these 3bet pots against aggros.

wazz 11-13-2007 12:39 PM

Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot
 
I think I shove the turn. As played, it's surely a fold, he doesn't valuebet worse and isn't bluffing enough to make this profitable. I'm thinking I get shown JQ+ here a lot if I call.


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