changed my mind 5/10
 

was gonna give up, but figure he can't call now, right? villian is 21/17 tag w/o much history (he probably views me as tag although i have been fairly active lately).

Full Tilt Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $1,354
UTG: $765.50
MP: $866
CO: $1,202
Hero (BTN): $1,035
SB: $1,132

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $35</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $120</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $85

Flop: ($255) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $200</font>, CO calls $200

Turn: ($655) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($655) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $715 and is All-In</font>

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 

Wouldn't CO fold a pair more often on 4th street then 5th given the way the hand played out? Maybe if you were a bit deeper and put in a bet on the turn then your 3 barrel most likely won't get looked up light.

Let me ask you something...If you held AT/JJ are you betting the turn? If not are you calling a river shove?

The point of my ramble is that if there is a possibility that we are going to bluff shove this river, wouldn't we rather semi bluff shove the turn given our equity and general strength in line (which in turn creates additional equity in FE)?

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 

why not put it in on 4th instead of 5th?

are you leveling or something?

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 

if your image was good i would like it. when your image starts to turn bad these spots just become really really difficult to bluff.

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 

i would also shove turn 100% i think.

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 

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why not put it in on 4th instead of 5th?

are you leveling or something?

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Are you asking if I am leveling or agreeing with me and asking if OP is leveling?

Either way, I don't think anyone in this thread is leveling anything. Contribute or stay on the sidelines.

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 

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i would also shove turn 100% i think.

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i think shoving the turn looks waaay more bluffy (big heart type hand) than shoving the river.

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 

yes but we dont need much fe.

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 

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i would also shove turn 100% i think.

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i think shoving the turn looks waaay more bluffy (big heart type hand) than shoving the river.

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id also shove turn instead if was gonna do this on the river...

this might be true (more bluffy) but we obvi have more equity when called and i cant think of a real hand that plays like this except maybe a tricky flush or AhAx

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 

easy question: do you shove AA on the turn or river?