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fukkeneh 07-14-2007 09:38 AM

Short Stack Strat- WSOP Main Event
 
Just got moved to the table, I just pushed after a SS went all in in front of me with JJ.

He ended up showing A8s and winning the pot leaving me with about T$48,000

No Reads.

Blinds 2500-5000 - 500 Ante 9 handed

Big Stack $1,000,000 + chips makes it $ 15000 to go UTG +1

Assuming a hand range of AA-77, AK-ATs, KQs, QJs, 9Ts, 78s

I have 99 in MP.

Is this a shove or fold?

List 07-14-2007 09:52 AM

Re: Short Stack Strat- WSOP Main Event
 
You have 45.2% and you need ~44.5%, but that doesn't include the guys behind you who still need to act. Also, your range makes no sense. Against a more reasonable range based on your given range, you're more like 49.2%, which is probably a push.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.239% 48.57% 00.67% 95641348 1317339.00 { 9c9d }
Hand 1: 50.761% 50.09% 00.67% 98638934 1317339.00 { 77+, ATs+, KQs, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, AQo+, KQo }

betgo 07-14-2007 11:53 AM

Re: Short Stack Strat- WSOP Main Event
 
You are about even versus villain's range. This is cEV+ with blinds and antes. Someone else may play, which is probably bad, as they might have a big hand, but they also might isolate, giving you better pot odds.

I might just fold and look to pushbot rather than gambling versus an early position raiser, even if it is slightly cEV+.

curtains 07-14-2007 11:54 AM

Re: Short Stack Strat- WSOP Main Event
 
I'd go allin.

0evg0 07-14-2007 03:11 PM

Re: Short Stack Strat- WSOP Main Event
 
Your range is most likely off, but 88 is probably a shove here too.

A_PLUS 07-14-2007 11:10 PM

Re: Short Stack Strat- WSOP Main Event
 
puuuuuuuuuush

THAY3R 07-14-2007 11:41 PM

Re: Short Stack Strat- WSOP Main Event
 
I'd fold, and I'm not a nit.

betgo 07-15-2007 12:03 AM

Re: Short Stack Strat- WSOP Main Event
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'd fold, and I'm not a nit.

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I just don't want to take a slightly cEV+ gamble for all my chips. I think there is more value to staying in the tournament. I want to make plays with FE.

nath 07-15-2007 12:07 AM

Re: Short Stack Strat- WSOP Main Event
 
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I'd fold, and I'm not a nit.

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Wow, I think 99 is way too strong to fold here.

THAY3R 07-15-2007 12:27 AM

Re: Short Stack Strat- WSOP Main Event
 
It's late in the MAIN EVENT, players will fold to your pushbots too much to shove here. Unless big stack is lag, I would fold.


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