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Manque 05-27-2006 03:21 PM

$33: AA What to do on the River
 
2nd hand so no reads.

PartyPoker Regular Tournament, Big Blind is t (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t2000)
UTG+1 (t2000)
MP1 (t1920)
MP2 (t2000)
MP3 (t2000)
CO+1 (t1920)
CO (t2000)
Button (t1980)
SB (t2180)
BB (t2000)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t125</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls t125, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t250) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t175</font>, MP1 calls t175

Turn: (t600) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t300</font>, MP1 calls t300

River: (t1200) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero?

bruin 05-27-2006 04:46 PM

Re: $33: AA What to do on the River
 
raise more preflop, to like t180. Someone is bound to call you anyway.

Pot the flop, pot the turn and you won't get stuck in this situation.

As played, I like a bet of t600 on the river. If villain pushes I puke and call. I know that flush got there but post-flop play at teh 33s is stil pretty bad-- you can't be seeing monsters.

AmazingErvin 05-27-2006 04:50 PM

Re: $33: AA What to do on the River
 
Uuuh...what are the blinds? I'd definitely bet more on flop and turn though. I'd probably check the river and make a decision if he bets since there's also a missed straight draw you could get money from.

Manque 05-27-2006 10:19 PM

Re: $33: AA What to do on the River
 
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raise more preflop, to like t180. Someone is bound to call you anyway.

Pot the flop, pot the turn and you won't get stuck in this situation.

As played, I like a bet of t600 on the river. If villain pushes I puke and call. I know that flush got there but post-flop play at teh 33s is stil pretty bad-- you can't be seeing monsters.

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Isn't the pf raise standard?
What's wrong with the flop and turn bet?

Manque 05-27-2006 10:20 PM

Re: $33: AA What to do on the River
 
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Uuuh...what are the blinds? I'd definitely bet more on flop and turn though. I'd probably check the river and make a decision if he bets since there's also a missed straight draw you could get money from.

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Blinds are 20/40 Why bet more on the flop and turn?

TravestyFund 05-27-2006 10:36 PM

Re: $33: AA What to do on the River
 
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raise more preflop, to like t180. Someone is bound to call you anyway.

Pot the flop, pot the turn and you won't get stuck in this situation.

As played, I like a bet of t600 on the river. If villain pushes I puke and call. I know that flush got there but post-flop play at teh 33s is stil pretty bad-- you can't be seeing monsters.

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This is not standard by any means.

OP: played PF fine, flop bet is OK, but turn bet is bad. On a draw heavy-board, after youre flop bet has been called followed by a relatively safe turn card, I would suggest sticking to a larger bet instead of a pot-building bet.

*OP, Bruin prob mis-read and thought it was lev2.

Manque 05-27-2006 10:59 PM

Re: $33: AA What to do on the River
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
raise more preflop, to like t180. Someone is bound to call you anyway.

Pot the flop, pot the turn and you won't get stuck in this situation.

As played, I like a bet of t600 on the river. If villain pushes I puke and call. I know that flush got there but post-flop play at teh 33s is stil pretty bad-- you can't be seeing monsters.

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This is not standard by any means.

OP: played PF fine, flop bet is OK, but turn bet is bad. On a draw heavy-board, after youre flop bet has been called followed by a relatively safe turn card, I would suggest sticking to a larger bet instead of a pot-building bet.

*OP, Bruin prob mis-read and thought it was lev2.

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I bet 1/2 pot isn't that standard?

TravestyFund 05-28-2006 01:34 AM

Re: $33: AA What to do on the River
 
What do you mean by standard? By the turn there should be a number of factors influencing the size of youre bet, making no certain size standard. I mentioned some of the factors you need to think about in earlier reply.

AMT 05-28-2006 01:59 AM

Re: $33: AA What to do on the River
 
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I bet 1/2 pot isn't that standard?

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the idea is that you dont really want him chasing the many draws on this board, and a bigger bet does one or both of two things:

1) deters him from chasing, and
2) allows you to build the pot so on river cards that you feel safe in doing so, you can stick in a big bet (up to an all in, depending on pot size and situation), and make villain pay with worse hands. the key is trying to discourage action because of how many river cards you are not going to like, but you also make the pot big enough where you dont put yourself in as difficult of a spot to play a big pair like AA by building the pot up more.


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