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Mike MacIntosh 10-08-2007 12:18 PM

Good spot to b/f river?
 
Villain is 20/11/7 over 160 hands. Nothing really worth mentioning other than a few times he has 3bet my button open where I folded both. Probably views me as 21/17ish TAG.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($99.90)
Button ($117.45)
SB ($83.05)
BB ($110.40)
UTG ($76.50)
MP ($137.90)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($9.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, Button calls $7.

Turn: ($23.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, Button calls $16.

River: ($55.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $32</font>

Standard b/f river spot?

Suwalski 10-08-2007 12:22 PM

Re: Good spot to b/f river?
 
Ï bet pot on turn and river, and yes b/f is good.

martijn 10-08-2007 12:23 PM

Re: Good spot to b/f river?
 
against someone with a 7 aggr factor I prefer to c/c, but B/f sounds good too.

ok2aa 10-08-2007 12:26 PM

Re: Good spot to b/f river?
 
i'd bet less on the river. i think 23 accomplishes same as 32 here

YouCantEscape 10-08-2007 12:28 PM

Re: Good spot to b/f river?
 
ok2aa:
No I do not like 23. This really looks like a scared blocking bet, and a lot of villains will shove u with air probably.

32 is fine.

Mike MacIntosh 10-08-2007 12:29 PM

Re: Good spot to b/f river?
 
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against someone with a 7 aggr factor I prefer to c/c, but B/f sounds good too.

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I do not put much stock into aggro factor over 160ish hands. It usually takes a larger sample size for that number to become reliable enough to adjust our play.

Mike MacIntosh 10-08-2007 12:32 PM

Re: Good spot to b/f river?
 
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i'd bet less on the river. i think 23 accomplishes same as 32 here

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No, 23 will induce a bluff shove more often than 32. I would rather c/c than put myself in a spot where I suspect villain is FOS but can't call.

KhalynYohrk 10-08-2007 12:37 PM

Re: Good spot to b/f river?
 
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i'd bet less on the river. i think 23 accomplishes same as 32 here

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No, 23 will induce a bluff shove more often than 32. I would rather c/c than put myself in a spot where I suspect villain is FOS but can't call.

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Definately c/c will induce here as everyone loves to rep an ace.

Dankie 10-08-2007 12:42 PM

Re: Good spot to b/f river?
 
so what happened?

TheDunePariah 10-08-2007 01:04 PM

Re: Good spot to b/f river?
 
Villain's range to me is 66-88, 67s, possibly Axss (maybe 99-TT but unlikely because he has been 3betting you in position), given his stats. I think it is most likely an overpair being played cautiously in fear of a higher overpair.

67s probably raises the flop given the AF, and I don't think he's slowplaying a set here.

Given his range, I think betting the river is either going to fold out 77-TT or get a raise from 66/Ax (or a raise from air which will make you fold a better hand since you are planning on b/f). I like c/c here a lot more, keep the pot small on the river.


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