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Jaran 11-27-2007 11:15 PM

NL noob seeking advise on correct bet sizes pf & flop
 
CO is very loose (66.7/21.3/1.11 over 75 hands). Also is trying to be the table captian. I've noted s/he plays any two sooted, and will always call a reraise after commiting money on a given round. My main question is about the size of the flop bet, or if I should check. Also, I'm unsure about how much to 3bet here pf.

-J


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 ($6.19)
CO ($5.39)
Button ($5.26)
SB ($5.78)
Hero ($12.11)
UTG ($12.44)
UTG+1 ($5.78)
MP1 ($5.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
[color=#666666]4 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]CO raises to $0.25</font>, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $0.7</font>, CO calls $0.45.

Flop: ($1.42) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
Hero...

knockonwood 11-27-2007 11:19 PM

Re: NL noob seeking advise on correct bet sizes pf & flop
 
*grunch*
bets 90 cents (2/3 of the pot) would be standard here? Giving gut shots and anything else poor odds to draw.

Bona 11-27-2007 11:27 PM

Re: NL noob seeking advise on correct bet sizes pf & flop
 
Hi Jaran you are here too huh? I have no clue (trying to learn myself [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) but I'm guessing a pot size bet is good here. I'll look forward to reading others comments.

Jaran 11-27-2007 11:35 PM

Re: NL noob seeking advise on correct bet sizes pf & flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hi Jaran you are here too huh? I have no clue (trying to learn myself [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) but I'm guessing a pot size bet is good here. I'll look forward to reading others comments.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yup. I'm here. Thought I'd give it a shot, but I'm still really confussled about bet sizes. Hopefully someone with more experience can post some really goot stuff.

-J

djshawk 11-28-2007 07:15 AM

Re: NL noob seeking advise on correct bet sizes pf & flop
 
The best draw he can have is QT/9T and both of those are unlikely.

You are hoping he's got a king or a jack here and doesn't believe your 3b.

I'd probably bet $1.1, the pot is already quite big and that flop hits a lot of his range so if he's calling 90c he'll call $1.1. If called that gives a $3.7 pot and $3.6 effective stack so you can push the turn.

I think your pf raise size is fine.

Ulkis 11-28-2007 07:23 AM

Re: NL noob seeking advise on correct bet sizes pf & flop
 
Because villain has the position on you I would compensate a bit and raise closer to PSR ie ~80c, followed with 2/3P bet.

adsman 11-28-2007 10:42 AM

Re: NL noob seeking advise on correct bet sizes pf & flop
 
Jaran,

Sup. So you've come over to the dark side as well. Been a while. Does villian like to bet if checked to on the flop?

ads.

Man of Means 11-28-2007 10:56 AM

Re: NL noob seeking advise on correct bet sizes pf & flop
 
I prefer a plan to get the money in by two near-potsized chunks on the flop and turn. So like, $1.25 and $3. Alternate line is to make villain call you down light with smaller bets, like $0.75, $1.75, $2.25 but that gives better implied odds to straight draws.

Villain folding is no big deal either; keep betting with 1 pair.

Preflop standard rr is 3xoriginal raise. If you know this villain will call loosely in this situation then raise more, not less. $.95 maybe.

Jaran 11-28-2007 11:44 AM

Re: NL noob seeking advise on correct bet sizes pf & flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
Jaran,

Sup. So you've come over to the dark side as well. Been a while. Does villian like to bet if checked to on the flop?

ads.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sup ads? Long time. Still in Italy?

Villian is pretty aggro post flop, but will check behind w/air. Also (prolly should have mentioned this in the original post), I have taken a few iso raised pots off him with a 2/3 cbet. Basically, this player will bet aggro w/any piece/pp in this situation, but will check behind with a hand like Axs that missed.

-J

adsman 12-01-2007 01:45 PM

Re: NL noob seeking advise on correct bet sizes pf & flop
 
Jaran,

Yeah, still in Italy. You still working in the bookshop?

If Villian would call a bet with something like Axs hoping to catch on the turn then I'd bet around a buck here. If he's liable to fold those to a flop bet then I'd go for a check raise.


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