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Sirocko 12-08-2006 12:16 PM

Odds, but a lot of chips early
 
105+9 Turbo on Stars, no reads. What is the standard preflopplay and what should I do on the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button (t1455)
SB (t1170)
BB (t1675)
UTG (t1725)
UTG+1 (t1508)
MP1 (t1417)
MP2 (t1385)
MP3 (t1710)
Hero (t1455)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
[color=#666666]5 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to t90</font>, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, BB calls t60.

Flop: (t195) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets t120</font>, BB calls t120.

Turn: (t435) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets t210</font>, [color=#CC3333]BB raises to t510[/color

Hero???

Maneh 12-08-2006 02:18 PM

Re: Odds, but a lot of chips early
 
Fold PF.

As played I Push here!

Jake M. 12-08-2006 03:14 PM

Re: Odds, but a lot of chips early
 
you're clearly beat. First off, the min raise. Lol. Even if he is just min raising with top pair, hes got you outkicked. The thing I always tell people when asking me for advice on how they played a hand, I tell them to think "What hand CAN I beat?" then also ask yourself "Would he be raising me here with THAT hand?" Really the only hand you can beat here is Q8 (or lower kicker) or a hand with a 10 in it (A 10). Would he really raise you half of his chips with top pair no kicker or a striaght draw that he TURNED? Probably not. To me it seems like he has either 8 10 or K 10. K 10 seems more likely cause people chase any draw, espically early in tournaments, though 8 10 was open ended. The other thing to consider too is; Are you hoping to hit your open ender (which would be a 1 liner) to chop the pot? Even if you hit it, you wont even have the nuts. Bad spot to be in. I would have to say dump it and find a better spot. Id rather push all in and put fold equity in someone then to call off all my chips with such a marginal hand like Q 10 in that spot.


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