Weird QQ spot in 3bet pot vs. 2 unknowns (NL100)
 

I have no reads on either player. Is flop sizing ok for the raise? Calling here seems stupid since they look weak. I don't know what to make of his 3bet. Seems like it could be a FD, but its a 3bet pot so I don't know how many of those hands even call my raise and then call a 3bet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($101.40)
Button ($104.15)
SB ($18.50)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($186.45)</font>
UTG ($55.60)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($97)</font>
MP1 ($97.80)
MP2 ($99)
MP3 ($84.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, BB calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $13</font>, Hero calls $8, BB calls $8.

Flop: ($39.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1</font>, UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $26</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $51</font>, UTG folds, Hero is wondering wtf is going on.

Re: Weird QQ spot in 3bet pot vs. 2 unknowns (NL100)
 

Sick. Since it's an unknown, I'd just shove and pay off sets, but I don't like it at all. Still, I think you see enough J-x/drawing hands for it to be okay.

Re: Weird QQ spot in 3bet pot vs. 2 unknowns (NL100)
 

Doesn't BB betting $1.00 tell you anything? Serious question.

Re: Weird QQ spot in 3bet pot vs. 2 unknowns (NL100)
 

Seems like a set, I would fold.

Re: Weird QQ spot in 3bet pot vs. 2 unknowns (NL100)
 

$1 bet? I don't know whats going on here. Personally I pay off a set here I think. I think it's also likely that he has a flush draw. The only think I can get from his $1 bet is that maybe he is hoping that the both of you have autofold clicked?

Re: Weird QQ spot in 3bet pot vs. 2 unknowns (NL100)
 

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Doesn't BB betting $1.00 tell you anything? Serious question.

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no, I always get confused as [censored] when unknowns minbet or bet less than 20% of the pot. I have no idea what his range is. I'd guess its anywhere from total air to JJJ.

Re: Weird QQ spot in 3bet pot vs. 2 unknowns (NL100)
 

It's a draw 95% of the time in my experience in a non 3bet pot. I'm curious what it was this time. Surely you called.

Re: Weird QQ spot in 3bet pot vs. 2 unknowns (NL100)
 

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It's a draw 95% of the time in my experience in a non 3bet pot. I'm curious what it was this time. Surely you called.

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notice there is still money behind.

Re: Weird QQ spot in 3bet pot vs. 2 unknowns (NL100)
 

I think hes on a draw (cause of the min donk bet). Shove.

Re: Weird QQ spot in 3bet pot vs. 2 unknowns (NL100)
 

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Doesn't BB betting $1.00 tell you anything? Serious question.

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no, I always get confused as [censored] when unknowns minbet or bet less than 20% of the pot. I have no idea what his range is. I'd guess its anywhere from total air to JJJ.

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In a pot this big, I'd lean towards it being something decent, but usually (raised to 4BB pf, 1-2 callers) I just raise to 2/3+ and get a fold 80% of the time.