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Willd 11-04-2007 05:01 PM

Very short with sc UTG
 
This is from the daily 15k. I'm so short because I lost shoving 10bbs with J7s into bb with 7bbs who instacalled with Q9s then doubling my tiny stack with K9 > A7 but blinds just increased and i haven't had a chance to shove since that double up. Should I shove here and hopefully get dead money from the blinds or call with any two from bb next hand?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t9074)
Button (t19823)
SB (t756)
BB (t11570)
Hero (t5626)
UTG+1 (t13882)
MP1 (t20779)
MP2 (t8895)
MP3 (t29816)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

scottywhen333 11-04-2007 08:42 PM

Re: Very short with sc UTG
 
#1 the SB is probably never folding.
#2 your stack represents a good chunk of BB's, so he might fold regardless of being priced in to call.
#3 you're sooooooted.

i'd go with this one.

ssnyc 11-04-2007 08:54 PM

Re: Very short with sc UTG
 
fold...very little FE and had is too weak for showdown

Willd 11-04-2007 10:04 PM

Re: Very short with sc UTG
 
I just ran a pokerstove calc on this and if I get it in against a top 10% hand against anyone other than the bb I'm getting basically the right odds (just under 2-1 when I'm slightly worse than 2-1 in the 10k sidepot and obviously have some equity in the 3.5k main pot including sb's hand).

I think it's very close as often i will get it in against only the bb or against a hand stronger than top 10% but even then I'm not sure if it's more -EV than calling next hand with ATC.

Something that occured to me just as I was about to post this was that there is a good chance the sb gets knocked out this hand if I fold, meaning I would miss the bb because of the way stars handles that situation. I'm not sure exactly how this should affect my decision but it probably makes a fold slightly better as I might have a very small amount of FE left, or possibly still have to option to fold trash on my sb and wait for something half decent.

levAA 11-05-2007 04:51 AM

Re: Very short with sc UTG
 
This is really close - If you had 1BB less I'd instashove ATC. I think here it depends on the table somehow. If playing is very tight I'd might let this one go, cause you would still have some FE with 4BB - no wait it's PS - so we have 125 antes right?

Forget it and push, another blind round totally cripples you.

Willd 11-05-2007 09:24 AM

Re: Very short with sc UTG
 
Ante is only 75 because the 15k uses the old blind structure but I think even a 75 ante just about makes it a shove although it's definitely very close.


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