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Baja15 12-01-2007 10:11 PM

NL100: Strange spot with AQs
 
Villain is Unknown but has played most of the pots since they sat down an orbit ago.
I called the flop because i didn't want to push villain off their hand, as i'm usually ahead here. Is raising the flop a better line?

The turn isn't a great card but their line makes absolutely no sense. So should hero make a hero call?

OnGame's Room No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (10 handed) by Hand Converter CG

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP3 ($109.55)
<font color="#C00000">CO ($99.40)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($98.50)</font>
SB ($41.05)
BB ($100.00)
UTG ($111.90)
UTG+1 ($143.85)
UTG+2 ($48.50)
MP1 ($193.70)
MP2 ($99.00)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $5.

Flop: ($15.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15.

Turn: ($45.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $77.4 (All-In)</font>, Hero ?

bottomset 12-01-2007 10:34 PM

Re: NL100: Strange spot with AQs
 
calling and raising the flop are both fine

I'd probably fold here without a better read

TwoNitty 12-01-2007 10:42 PM

Re: NL100: Strange spot with AQs
 
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calling and raising the flop are both fine

I'd probably fold here without a better read

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Albert Moulton 12-02-2007 12:05 AM

Re: NL100: Strange spot with AQs
 
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The turn isn't a great card but their line makes absolutely no sense. So should hero make a hero call?


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Min-raise/call preflop followed by big lead on a 2-flush board, then a push when another overcard comes is consistent with a big hand. By the turn, it is likely a low set, two pair, or a big combo draw that is trying to fold out big 1-pair hands like AA and AQ. Since I doubt villain would min-raise/call preflop with QQ-AA, I think by the turn he has hands like 55,66,56s,KQs,7d8d,JdTd,AdTd,AdKd,AdJd.

All of these are candidates for min-raise/call preflop, then bet flop/push turn. Some of the draw hands might be less likely if villains isn't aggro w/ draws OOP.

Board: Qd 5d 6c Ks
76.623% { 66-55, AdKd, AdJd, AdTd, KQs, JdTd, 8d7d, 65s }
23.377% { AhQh }

So, I think folding TPTK on the turn is good.

wikemang 12-02-2007 02:17 AM

Re: NL100: Strange spot with AQs
 
Fold turn.

gman339 12-02-2007 03:19 AM

Re: NL100: Strange spot with AQs
 
After the turn what are you ahead of other than a flush draw? KQ and AK caught up. AA or KK are still way ahead. I think you have to fold here.


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