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Brandonjp13 11-25-2007 10:08 PM

4/180, Flopped a set
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t1610)
BB (t6750)
Hero (t3180)
UTG+1 (t4350)
MP1 (t1775)
MP2 (t2115)
CO (t675)
Button (t1705)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t100.

Flop: (t475) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero??

Do we hate a check here? I feel if I bet I scare everyone out since I also raised preflop.

paratacus 11-25-2007 10:28 PM

Re: 4/180, Flopped a set
 
I'm pretty new around here, but if you raised preflop aren't they expecting you to take control anyway? Also someone could easily have hit that Ace, or be drawing to the flush or straight. I think a bet here is needed. For both value and to protect your hand. Maybe 300 odd? I'm trying to give my thoughts to help me learn, so don't take this advice as concrete!

Jesuitical 11-25-2007 10:42 PM

Re: 4/180, Flopped a set
 
Actually, take that advice as concrete.

gobucks27 11-26-2007 12:13 AM

Re: 4/180, Flopped a set
 
Absolutely must bet if you have any intention of building a pot..Check raising will only discourage action imo...by betting out, anyone w/ an A, flush or strt draw will come along..

hamnegger 11-26-2007 01:11 AM

Re: 4/180, Flopped a set
 
guess what if no one has an ace you aren't getting action anyway so lead. don't let kq get free draw.

omg im l337 11-26-2007 02:37 AM

Re: 4/180, Flopped a set
 
make a cbet. as gobucks said, you MUST build up the pot and not let free hands in.

JoeyJoJo Shabadu 11-26-2007 03:29 PM

Re: 4/180, Flopped a set
 
Bet the pot. Draw heavy board. Ace will give you action, you may get some draws to fold.

hagbard celine 11-26-2007 03:42 PM

Re: 4/180, Flopped a set
 
[ QUOTE ]
Bet the pot. Draw heavy board. Ace will give you action, you may get some draws to fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

We don't want draws to fold, we want draws to call without the proper odds to be doing so. A PSB accomplishes this, although I tend to not like to hit the pot button. This is a spot where I like to bet ~2/3 the pot, or slightly overbet the pot. Overbetting, IMO, is often taken as a weaker bet than 2/3-PSB. You might get someone holding an A or a FD to try and take the pot from you. But ~2/3 pot is my default.

Gar Pike 11-26-2007 03:58 PM

Re: 4/180, Flopped a set
 
My thinking is that you should only be checking a flopped set a small %age of the time, to mix up your play.

People never believe you would bet a flopped set, they'll call with just about anything.

On a board like this, I would be happy to take it down on the flop, as, when a better hand becomes possible, I usually do something stupid like set 'em all in with the worst hand.

I hate it when that happens...

Regards

Gar

ZenMusician 11-26-2007 05:04 PM

Re: 4/180, Flopped a set
 
[ QUOTE ]
We don't want draws to fold, we want draws to call without the proper odds to be doing so. A PSB accomplishes this

[/ QUOTE ]

QFMFT!

He's not just spouting fnord people, this seems to be
something some of us forgot a long time ago! NL allows
you to set the "price" of any draws against you.

Of COURSE we want action, we just want that action to
benefit us over time, so make your opponents draw
without the proper odds.

-ZEN


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