How can I lose at 200nl?
 

Got in a marathon session today, 5k hands YEah but ...

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Re: How can I lose at 200nl?
 

Welcome to variance which can do that to even the best players.

Could also be that you're playing badly. Hard to say, stats look okay.

Re: How can I lose at 200nl?
 

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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<font color="#C00000">UTG ($176.57)</font>
MP ($327.60)
Button ($228.23)
SB ($172.56)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($320.89)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, UTG calls $14.

Flop: ($37) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, UTG calls $30.

Turn: ($97) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $15</font>, Hero calls $272.89 (All-In), UTG calls $113.57 (All-In).

River: ($498.46) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $498.46

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ah Ac (two pair, aces and jacks).
UTG has 8d 8h (full house, eights full of jacks).
Outcome: UTG wins $354.14. Hero wins $144.32. </font>



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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Button ($78.33)
SB ($249)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($238.81)</font>
UTG ($60.83)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($247)</font>
CO ($47.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, MP calls $16.

Flop: ($47) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $39</font>, MP calls $39.

Turn: ($125) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero calls $176.81 (All-In), MP calls $176.81.

River: ($478.62) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $478.62

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
MP has 5c 5h (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: MP wins $478.62. </font>


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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MP ($221.03)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($357.57)</font>
SB ($208.20)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($190.55)</font>
UTG ($144.43)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, Button calls $2, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $9, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $30</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $21, MP folds.

Turn: ($79) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button calls $325.57 (All-In), Hero calls $158.55 (All-In).

River: ($563.12) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $563.12

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 2s 2h (three of a kind, twos).
Button has 3c 3s (three of a kind, threes).
Outcome: Button wins $563.12. </font>


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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Button ($129.65)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($221.75)</font>
BB ($331.67)
UTG ($177)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($263.30)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($16) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font>, SB calls $200.75 (All-In), Hero calls $164.75.

Turn: ($445.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($445.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $445.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Ks Kh (three of a kind, kings).
Hero has Ts Kc (two pair, kings and tens).
Outcome: SB wins $445.50. </font>


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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SB ($179.65)
BB ($200)
UTG ($426)
MP ($336.72)
<font color="#C00000">CO ($215)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($197)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $13</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $45</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $145</font>, Hero calls $144 (All-In), CO calls $44.

Turn: ($397) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($397) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $397

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
CO has Ks 4d (two pair, kings and fours).
Hero has Th Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: CO wins $397. </font>


this guy was 14/9 so his range here is 100% pocketpairs and he prob peels one off and cant take heat on turn unless he has exactly JJ or a house.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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BB ($178.32)
UTG ($43.05)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($329.64)</font>
CO ($192.35)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($292.30)</font>
SB ($250.99)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $20.

Flop: ($65) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $45</font>, MP calls $45.

Turn: ($155) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero calls $217.30 (All-In), MP calls $217.30.

River: ($589.60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $589.60

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP has Jd Jc (four of a kind, jacks).
Hero has Kh As (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: MP wins $589.60. </font>


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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<font color="#C00000">Hero ($212.20)</font>
UTG ($53.10)
Button ($78.32)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($370.19)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($6) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $19</font>, Hero calls $13.

Turn: ($44) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $22</font>, Hero calls $22.

River: ($88) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB calls $327.19 (All-In), Hero calls $169.20 (All-In).

Final Pot: $584.39

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 9s 8s (flush, king high).
SB has 6s As (flush, ace high).
Outcome: SB wins $584.39. </font>


Had been reraising this guy 5000 times and play back at him alot and he was getting super sick but apparently he picked up KK at the right time.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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Button ($119.30)
SB ($412.70)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($228.89)</font>
UTG ($200)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($266.90)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($15) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $35</font>, Hero calls $21.

Turn: ($85) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $45</font>, Hero calls $186.89 (All-In), MP calls $141.89.

River: ($458.78) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $458.78

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Td Tc (full house, sixes full of tens).
MP has Kc Kd (full house, sixes full of kings).
Outcome: MP wins $458.78. </font>


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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MP ($243.53)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($156.77)</font>
SB ($135.72)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($212.90)</font>
UTG ($49)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, Button calls $16.

Flop: ($45) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $35</font>, Button calls $35.

Turn: ($115) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero calls $155.90 (All-In), Button calls $99.77 (All-In).

River: ($370.67) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $370.67

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Kh Ah (high card, ace).
Button has 9d 9c (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Button wins $314.54. Hero wins $56.13. </font>


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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UTG ($251.85)
MP ($249.70)
<font color="#C00000">CO ($112.55)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($246.90)</font>
SB ($338.19)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($47.99)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $10, CO calls $8.

Flop: ($37) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB calls $35.99 (All-In), CO calls $35.99, Hero calls $234.90 (All-In), CO calls $64.56 (All-In).

Turn: ($408.44) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

River: ($408.44) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $408.44

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Jc Qd (one pair, jacks).
CO has 8c Th (one pair, eights).
Hero has Qs As (high card, ace).
Outcome: BB wins $144.97. Hero wins $134.35. CO wins $129.12. </font>


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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<font color="#C00000">MP ($352.15)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($205.20)</font>
SB ($201.20)
BB ($58.37)
UTG ($235.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $14.

Flop: ($45) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $33.35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $99.5</font>, MP calls $297.80 (All-In), Hero calls $84.70 (All-In).

Turn: ($560.35) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($560.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $560.35

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP has 3h Ac (two pair, aces and threes).
Hero has Kc Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: MP wins $560.35. </font>


No more, I'm too lazy and you guys don't care anyway but the spam helps me.

Re: How can I lose at 200nl?
 

I don't think there is that much variance in NL 200 and 400. NL is very different from fixed. It won't take long for you to get a hang of it if you keep it up though.

Re: How can I lose at 200nl?
 

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I don't think there is that much variance in NL 200 and 400. NL is very different from fixed. It won't take long for you to get a hang of it if you keep it up though.

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Yup that's what i'm thinking because before this I was 5+ ptbb at 200nl over 35kish hands and 4ptbb at 400nl over 80-90k hands.

Re: How can I lose at 200nl?
 

Seems like you are prob playing to many tables and playing badly because of it.

Re: How can I lose at 200nl?
 

Maybe you run bad

Re: How can I lose at 200nl?
 

I only looked at the first 4 hands but it seems like you're playing losing poker.

Re: How can I lose at 200nl?
 

it happens, dude. some of these hands might've been played suboptimally, but whatever, things will turn around.

Re: How can I lose at 200nl?
 

I don't play NL $200 but I think you played several of these hands wrong. The one that really stood out is where you made the spade flush draw on the river and the villain pushes 4x pot and you call. The line you took makes it look like you have or at least could very likely have a flush draw yourself... why would villain push like that unless he beats you? Maybe you had a read or something... but that plays just seems bad to me. But sorry about the bad run, I know how it goes... it'll turn around if you've been a decent winner in the past I'm sure.

EDIT: Ah nevermind I didn't notice you only had 1/2 of his final bet. But still I'd think twice about it before instantly calling.