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cs3 11-23-2007 03:26 AM

AQ - river 2 pairs, but feel gross
 
<font color="blue"> villain is fairly unknown and has only been at the table for 6-7 orbits. seems donkish though becasue he limp/calls a lot PF and has showdown hands like K2s from UTG. has been a passive/stationy so far

im playing TAGish and v aggro, but villain probably just thinks i raise i raise too much PF </font>

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $73
Hero: $157
Button: $96.90
SB: $64.50
BB: $103.65

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($9.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $13</font>, Hero calls.
<font color="blue">ya, i know i can bet flop harder. call teh raise? </font>

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($35.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $20</font>, Hero calls.
<font color="blue"> i dont know what the best line is here, but i didnt call the flop planning to fold to his inevitable turn bet, right?</font>

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($75.5, 2 players)
<font color="blue">did that Q really improve my hand? and whats the line here?
open shove?
check/shove?
check/fold? </font>

AlanDyer 11-23-2007 03:28 AM

Re: AQ - river 2 pairs, but feel gross
 
bet 7$ on flop. obviously call his raise, i'd reraise dryer flops here.

turn: bet again! but check/call his bet is ok.

river: obviously the queen completes TJ and other draws , but it also helped u out vs a ton of hands. i'd bet 30-50$ here and hope he calls.

Fly 11-23-2007 03:35 AM

Re: AQ - river 2 pairs, but feel gross
 
open shove river completes a perfect hand

shpanko 11-23-2007 04:44 AM

Re: AQ - river 2 pairs, but feel gross
 
agree, open shove river

tubasteve 11-23-2007 04:46 AM

Re: AQ - river 2 pairs, but feel gross
 
probably shove. what a ghey card

cs3 11-23-2007 04:48 AM

Re: AQ - river 2 pairs, but feel gross
 
ok, lets say if river is a blank, then what?

shpanko 11-23-2007 04:49 AM

Re: AQ - river 2 pairs, but feel gross
 
If we're not happy putting more money in when the Q hits why are we calling on the turn? We're putting him on JT exclusively? If that's the case we should've reraised earlier or led the turn. I think two pair is a very large part of his range, much larger than with JT. Sets are possible too but whatever,either shove or bet call like 40

tubasteve 11-23-2007 04:50 AM

Re: AQ - river 2 pairs, but feel gross
 
we're calling because people will bluffraise flops and 2-barrel but will usually never 3-barrel unless we are beat, and on the turn there is still a decent chance we are ahead

ps - there HAS to be a better picture of tina fey out there somewhere in internet land

deaders 11-23-2007 05:01 AM

Re: AQ - river 2 pairs, but feel gross
 
Seems he could have plenty of 2-pair hands that you just sucked out on, bet out.

GoodCallYouWin 11-23-2007 05:05 AM

Re: AQ - river 2 pairs, but feel gross
 
What is better half pot value or shove? It's around a pot sized bet effective stacks.


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