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JesseB_11 10-15-2007 06:59 PM

Stars $27.50- QJ- squeeeeze??
 
This is from the final table of the 25k gtd on Stars. The table is playing fairly loose preflop, most hands are being won uncontested. On average, we are prob raising each once an orbit. The cold caller is prob the best player left in the tournamnent. This is the first time I recall that a bet has been called preflop outside of the blinds. Re-raises are being respected, no re-raise has been 4 bet once at the final table. Do you squeeze here? If so, to how much?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30000 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
UTG (t876676)
Button (t1790000)
SB (t932448)
Hero (t834876)
Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t90000</font>, Button calls t90000, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?????

chrismystero 10-15-2007 07:07 PM

Re: Stars $27.50- QJ- squeeeeze??
 
I think this is a great spot to squeeze given your reads on the table. Im probably making it t350,000 here. If we get a caller preflop, I'm pushing every flop especially since we'll be OOP. If someone pushes over the top of your squeeze, well, time to re-evaluate and do some math I guess.

benneh 10-15-2007 08:51 PM

Re: Stars $27.50- QJ- squeeeeze??
 
i don't think i'd squeeeze a UTG raiser unless he was an absolute dimwit and has raised UTG light a few times that i saw.

what are chances here that button (good player) called to induce a squeeze? is he that good/does he know either you or the SB are capable of pulling it off?

Dunkman 10-15-2007 09:09 PM

Re: Stars $27.50- QJ- squeeeeze??
 
Umm it's UTG 4 handed. The only point I want to make is that if you reraise you may as well shove, since making it 350 and folding seems really bad unless you can stick him to QQ+ AK on a 4bet, and even it's really close as to whether you're getting the right price.

BarryLyndon 10-15-2007 09:44 PM

Re: Stars $27.50- QJ- squeeeeze??
 
Stacks are way to big to be raising to only 350K. I definitely push here - this is a beautiful place to squeeze.

Barry

chrismystero 10-15-2007 09:50 PM

Re: Stars $27.50- QJ- squeeeeze??
 
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Stacks are way to big to be raising to only 350K. I definitely push here - this is a beautiful place to squeeze.

Barry

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Ya, in hindsight I do see your point of view, pushing does seem better. $350k is almost half his stack and is ugly if someone 4bets. I'm definitely more convinced by a push after considering it more.

JesseB_11 10-15-2007 10:02 PM

Re: Stars $27.50- QJ- squeeeeze??
 
does anyone like a smaller raise or is the only raise thats okay a push?

erc007 10-15-2007 10:17 PM

Re: Stars $27.50- QJ- squeeeeze??
 
I think this is a really bad time for a squeeze...

JesseB_11 10-15-2007 10:18 PM

Re: Stars $27.50- QJ- squeeeeze??
 
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I think this is a really bad time for a squeeze...

[/ QUOTE ] why is that?

erc007 10-15-2007 10:28 PM

Re: Stars $27.50- QJ- squeeeeze??
 
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[ QUOTE ]
I think this is a really bad time for a squeeze...

[/ QUOTE ] why is that?

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The combo of a UTG raise and a call (from a good player) = strength IMO. The action here is a lot different than your std LP raise (from an active player) and then a call from (a predictable player.) If button is good, he's going to flatcall here with KK;AA a lot, i'm not saying that his range isn't a lot wider than big PP's, but this is not a good spot.


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