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absoludicrous 10-16-2007 02:37 AM

FTP 2r, QQ in SB, too weak/tight?
 
I never play these things anymore, tournaments that is, I don't know here. Table is full of awful donks willing to stack with TPNK on the flop. Fold and wait, or push?

18 players left

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 2,000/4,000 Blinds, 500 Ante, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP1: 148,158
MP2: 193,420
CO: 80,370
BTN: 41,630
Hero (SB): 119,653
BB: 37,660
UTG: 34,791
UTG+1: 63,236
UTG+2: 85,025

Pre-Flop: (10,500) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to 12,000</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to 46,500</font>, 6 folds

Results: 34,500 Pot
MP1 mucked and WON 34,500 (+22,000 NET)

erc007 10-16-2007 02:48 AM

Re: FTP 2r, QQ in SB, too weak/tight?
 
Without a really, really strong read on MP1, my money is going in with 30BBs...

jchauvin 10-16-2007 03:15 AM

Re: FTP 2r, QQ in SB, too weak/tight?
 
shove quickly

levAA 10-16-2007 03:51 AM

Re: FTP 2r, QQ in SB, too weak/tight?
 
there aren't much situations where you fold QQ in an online donkament preflop.

What was the buy-in?

If this is a thinking player I can find a fold - at the typical SSMTT I'd push this everytime, as there are enough situations villain calls an turns over something like KQs.

donquay 10-16-2007 04:15 AM

Re: FTP 2r, QQ in SB, too weak/tight?
 
shove unless 3-bettor is nitty mcnitterson who doesn't 3-bet without the nuts.

most of the time I don't see AA/KK 3-betting this big at these stakes (almost 4x the original raise) because they'll lose the action whereas someone with half a brain might size it as such to make it look like AK.

2p2J 10-16-2007 04:22 AM

Re: FTP 2r, QQ in SB, too weak/tight?
 
Probably 50/50 but it looks like a call.


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