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ALReturnsLOL 11-25-2007 01:06 AM

movin on up
 
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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $909.50
UTG+1: $623
CO: $1528.05
Hero: $1226
SB: $1084
BB: $1035

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-conte...c-cards/qs.png http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-conte...c-cards/qh.png
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $95</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-conte...c-cards/8s.png http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-conte...c-cards/7d.png http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-conte...c-cards/3d.png ($205, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $145</font>, CO calls.

Turn: http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-conte...c-cards/4d.png ($495, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $420</font>, CO calls.

River: http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-conte...c-cards/8c.png ($1335, 2 players)
CO checks. Hero??

cbboy 11-25-2007 01:11 AM

Re: movin on up
 
Shove?

Jamsym 11-25-2007 01:13 AM

Re: movin on up
 
I would check behind here.

Only hands your getting value of now are 99-JJ.

Jamsym 11-25-2007 01:14 AM

Re: movin on up
 
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Shove?

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What hand do you put villain on that calls the flop and turn and a river shove that we beat?

chirpy 11-25-2007 01:20 AM

Re: movin on up
 
shove is too thin here imo without some sick history

unless i know hes a total donk/calling station - which isn't the case here

aislephive 11-25-2007 01:26 AM

Re: movin on up
 
Uhh wtf @ these responses, this is an easy shove. Very rarely are most people checking the river with anything better than QQ with these stack sizes.

cbboy 11-25-2007 01:29 AM

Re: movin on up
 
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Shove?

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What hand do you put villain on that calls the flop and turn and a river shove that we beat?

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Like A5 said, he doesn't have a better hand too often. Just shove. Thought it was std...

Teh1337zor 11-25-2007 01:31 AM

Re: movin on up
 
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Uhh wtf @ these responses, this is an easy shove. Very rarely are most people checking the river with anything better than QQ with these stack sizes.

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Jamsym 11-25-2007 01:33 AM

Re: movin on up
 
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Shove?

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What hand do you put villain on that calls the flop and turn and a river shove that we beat?

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Like A5 said, he doesn't have a better hand too often. Just shove. Thought it was std...

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I just think it's kind of a sick spot to shove.

You expect a call from a hand like 99 here? On a paired, flushing and straighting board after a 3 barrel.

I think shoving basically turns our hand into a bluff because he should never call with worse.

cbboy 11-25-2007 01:34 AM

Re: movin on up
 
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Shove?

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What hand do you put villain on that calls the flop and turn and a river shove that we beat?

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Like A5 said, he doesn't have a better hand too often. Just shove. Thought it was std...

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I just think it's kind of a sick spot to shove.

You expect a call from a hand like 99 here? On a paired, flushing and straighting board after a 3 barrel.

I think shoving basically turns our hand into a bluff because he should never call with worse.

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Well, if we nearly always have the best hand, why should we ever check? Atleast put the decision on him and give him the chance to call with his TT or whatever. Shoving definaely doesn't turn our hand into a bluff. What better hand does he show up with here?


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