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mused01 09-29-2007 06:56 PM

Question to Krantz, CTS and other recent nosebleed players.
 
First, I apologize if my question is unclear. I'm writing this during my break from studying for school. Anyways, this question is directed to Krantz, CTS, and other recent nosebleed players that were not long ago, regulars at 2/4+. After reading Jman's post about Phil Ivey's lack of balance in his range in certain situations, I began to wonder how much no-limit poker, especially at the higher stakes, started deviating to game theory. I know highstakes limit poker relies heavily on game theory and randomization, evident by the barrage of loose calldowns many pros make, and since no limit stems of from limit poker only with a much wider degrees of freedom, I'm assuming it will follow the same path. My question is this, at nosebleed no limit stakes, how much are you guys taking randomization and game theory into consideration. Are you justifying some of your calls even though you know you're mostly beat, with the idea that if you make the call 20% of the time, you are unexploitable? Or are you guys still playing according to what your opponent can possibly have and simply playing a guessing game? The only example that I know of that makes me believe people still play by according what they "feel" or think they're opponent has is the sick check with position by durr against krantz when he had TPTK with AK and Krantz had 5,6, unless that of course was part of randomizing his hands.

My other question is, should 10/20, 5/10, or even 2/4 players play with this mentality of playing according to game theory and randomization. Will it help their game at these stakes or will it only hurt it?

Diamond Lie 09-29-2007 07:24 PM

Re: Question to Krantz, CTS and other recent nosebleed players.
 
wrong forum

paragraphs are your friend

sapol 09-29-2007 07:33 PM

Re: Question to Krantz, CTS and other recent nosebleed players.
 
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wrong forum

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but it is interesting....post it again in the high stakes no limit

hra146 09-29-2007 07:35 PM

Re: Question to Krantz, CTS and other recent nosebleed players.
 
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wrong forum

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but it is interesting....post it again in the high stakes no limit

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Maybe move it to Poker Theory. Interesting nonetheless.

inverted 09-29-2007 08:14 PM

Re: Question to Krantz, CTS and other recent nosebleed players.
 
high stakes is probably a better place, but BBV would be the best (: Thankfully most of the nose bleed players are pretty good at replying, which is nice to see.

Donkey-Milker 09-29-2007 08:22 PM

Re: Question to Krantz, CTS and other recent nosebleed players.
 
basically he is asking if high stakes players get tricky or play by the book....

lol

Prevaricator 09-29-2007 08:27 PM

Re: Question to Krantz, CTS and other recent nosebleed players.
 
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basically he is asking if high stakes players get tricky or play by the book....

lol

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you are wrong about that.

Prevaricator 09-29-2007 08:30 PM

Re: Question to Krantz, CTS and other recent nosebleed players.
 
the problem with a lot of game theory in nl is that it requires you to set a % to the times he is bluffing, which, since many situations come up rarely, is a guessing game in of itself.

demon102 09-29-2007 08:40 PM

Re: Question to Krantz, CTS and other recent nosebleed players.
 
game theory is for nerds ----------- end of thread

mojed 09-29-2007 08:54 PM

Re: Question to Krantz, CTS and other recent nosebleed players.
 
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After reading Jman's post about Phil Ivey's lack of balance in his range in certain situations

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