who banned youtalkfunny for 24 hours in OOT?
 

Who banned youtalkfunny for 24 hrs and left no note about it. Here is a PM from him:

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I started a thread in OOT, asking for help overhauling my Squidward avatar via photoshop. I posted my horrible attempt at turning the frown into a smile, with the text "World Champs" added to the Red Sox cap.

Trying to log in to the site later that day, access was denied for 24 hours. The reason stated was that thread. That thread has since vanished.

One poster was nice enough to make me a brand new avatar, top to bottom (had to PM it to me, as the thread was deleted), but I'm so pissed off that I may no longer need it. I've been posting on this site since Windows95 was the latest thing--back in the days when every thread included a Fossilman post. They don't get to treat me this way.

I'm definitely finished with OOT. I've yet to decide on whether to abandon 2+2 altogether.

But I owe somebody a "[censored] You!", and would like to pay off.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say NT!

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youtalkfunny is a really good B&M poster and I'd be sad if he left 2+2 over this.

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*SIGH*

Another long-term poster under the hammer.

Is this really necessary still? Or even tolerable?

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youtalkfunny is a really good B&M poster and I'd be sad if he left 2+2 over this.

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The only thing I will say about his value is when I was offered a job as poker room manager he was the first person I called and offered a shift supervisor's job to.

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24 hours seems a little harsh for a thread on overhauling Squidward [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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yeah it was me, sorry, forgot to add a note

it's not the first time i've warned him for starting a crap thread in OOT. it's not the 'fix my avatar for me' forum. i don't really care if he was posting on 2p2 with a rock and a stick back in the days of the chinese [censored] abacus, it's hilarious to me how [censored] indignant people get when they clearly, obviously don't know or care about the forum rules.

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If you don't like those threads, you can send them to ATF.

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ing a crap thread in OOT. it's not the 'fix my avatar for me' forum. i don't really care if he was posting on 2p2 with a rock and a stick back in the days of the chinese [censored] abacus,

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Perhaps you should. Banning posters, that have been posting since the late 90s, for minor offenses is probably not how 2+2 wants to treat long term customers.

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We totally need a "NT just banned my friend" containment thread.

ytf can be pretty abrasive imo.

Also long term poster or not, people should read the damn stickies.

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We totally need a "NT just banned my friend" containment thread.

ytf can be pretty abrasive imo.

Also long term poster or not, people should read the damn stickies.

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Can you name one other business that treats customers like this? I have no idea what percentage of posters buys books, but I would venture that among those posting since the 90s the number is real close to 100%.

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NT! --- Move the unretarded (non-Google solvable) fix my avatar threads to BBV4L. Kipin lurks there and would probably do it if it is interesting.

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it's always funny how mods who never had a problem with OOT bannings come out of the woodwork when their buddies are the ones breaking the rules.

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well i think this one is awful

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it's always funny how mods who never had a problem with OOT bannings come out of the woodwork when they hear about them for the first time.

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FYP

maybe if ryan/chuck hadn't fixed the unban notification problem there likely would have been more threads like this one and the NYplayer one before this

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I have no problem with the relatively short ban, especially if he's been a tard in the past, but there's no reason the thread couldn't have been moved to BBV or Comp Tech Help or whatever.

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If NT has warned him previously, I'm not sure what else there is to do but temp ban him.

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My only point is that these are currently the rules. I think the discussion we should be (and kinda are) having is that if those rules are appropriate.

Obviously we have more than a few instances of long term posters not reading and running afould of NT's sticky. I think this has been talked to death to some extent and probably we should just get a red person to decide what's up.

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this user has sent me a PM basically saying i have no right to ban him because he has been posting here for 12 years, being abusive, etc. i removed his custom title and request that he be exiled from OOT.

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this user has sent me a PM basically saying i have no right to ban him because he has been posting here for 12 years, being abusive, etc. i removed his custom title and request that he be exiled from OOT.

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not that i want to voice my opinion on this or any other matter at the moment, but what was the final decision in the recent custom titles debate? is stripping custom titles not overturning another mod's actions? further, isn't punishing a user for sending YOU an abusive PM entirely out of line with respect to moderating situations which involve yourself?

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If NT has warned him previously, I'm not sure what else there is to do but temp ban him.

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Does he just keep track of these in his head or does he have some secret place place that he keeps track of these undocumented warnings? Or does he say "I warned him previously" when he decides to be a big man on the net and ban someone from the site.

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If NT has warned him previously, I'm not sure what else there is to do but temp ban him.

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Does he just keep track of these in his head or does he have some secret place place that he keeps track of these undocumented warnings? Or does he say "I warned him previously" when he decides to be a big man on the net and ban someone from the site.

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...I tend to assume people aren't lying unless I have some reason to believe otherwise. Does the user dispute that he was warned?

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i should have logged ytf's prior problems, i thought i had but they are not there. it is also possible that someone else deleted them, wouldn't be the first time.

he seems to think (based on his recent PM in particular) that he has carte blanche because he has been here so long. no mention of 'i broke the rules but it's harmless,' etc. just 'you can't do this to me, i've been here forever.'

my impression from our previous discussions was that custom titles are a privilege, and removing them when someone breaks a forum rule is not stepping on someone else's authority. that seemed to be the popular sentiment. if anyone disagrees i am open to hearing it, but that was my recollection of the previous discussion.

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Here, you have a lot of work to do if asking for help with an avatar is a bannable offense.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1

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randy, this guy is your friend and you are pissed off. get over it. he doesn't care about the rules and he got banned like everyone else who doesn't care about the rules.

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Here, you have a lot of work to do if asking for help with an avatar is a bannable offense.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1

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See, you think this makes your point, but it actually makes NT's point.

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Here, you have a lot of work to do if asking for help with an avatar is a bannable offense.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1

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See, you think this makes your point, but it actually makes NT's point.

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Yea, we know that we should ban people who started a new thread instead of remembering one that was started over a year ago and finding it.

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1) banned a long time, well respected poster for a very minor offense

2) did not leave a note regarding the banning

3) overturned another mods decision regarding a custom title

4) banned for an offense that dozens of people have already done without punishment in that same forum

All I can say is ........................... sounds like par for the course with NT.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u
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randy, this guy is your friend and you are pissed off. get over it. he doesn't care about the rules and he got banned like everyone else who doesn't care about the rules.

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Well, I'm not that pissed off because I was able to convince him to just leave the retard forums instead of leaving 2+2. If you really thing it is a good idea to suspend longtime posters for this sort of thing I really think you should step down as a mod.

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Well, I'm not that pissed off because I was able to convince him to just leave the retard forums instead of leaving 2+2. If you really thing it is a good idea to suspend longtime CUSTOMERS for this sort of thing I really think you should step down as a mod.

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Sorry! I had to FYP.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u
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we have been doing this FOREVER in OOT and you just now decide to get pissed about it because he's your friend. he was never going to quit 2p2 over this, just like 99% of users who get tempbanned and then say they are quitting for good. you bring up a thread to make your point that has no bearing on the current debate and get all emotional over it because you know the guy. forgive me if i take what you say with a bucket of salt.

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1) banned a long time, well respected poster for a very minor offense

2) did not leave a note regarding the banning

3) overturned another mods decision regarding a custom title

4) banned for an offense that dozens of people have already done without punishment in that same forum

All I can say is ........................... sounds like par for the course with NT.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u
[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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oh look, jim kuhn talking with absolute certainty about an issue he's never followed before and never bothered to learn about, sounds familiar.

mods who show up in threads when their friends get banned and spout off about rules and precedents that the rest of us actually take the time to discuss should have their mod forum posting privileges revoked imo.

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Hey guys can we not have another furious mod war over a small incident please. I'd hate to see NT or RR stop modding too, on account of a 24-hr ban where both sides have already made their case.

http://img.timeinc.net/time/2007/la_...ing_rodney.jpg

What he said.

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All,

I farted again.

Regards,
--jman220

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we have been doing this FOREVER in OOT

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Really? A lot of people remmeber when there weren't mods on this site.

I realy think you should email Mason and let him know that you ban his long time customers because they make a post you don't like. Have you ever made a contribution to 2+2 that didn't involve enforcing arbitrary rules.

There is a huge difference between a 40 year old saying they don't want to associate with a site because the site he liked isn't recognizable and some 17 year old announcing he is leaving.

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randy, if you tried to mod OOT your head would explode and there would be a riot. i could moderate your forum in my sleep.

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WOW, youtalkfunny is a customer??? So am I, I am sure NT is too. You act like because he bought $100 worth of books, he should run the forum. Also, Let's stop pretending that the forums isn't its own business. Maybe 10 years ago the purpose of this forum was to promote the books, but it is long since passed that.

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i would guess that the high traffic in OOT probably made more for 2p2 in the last month than youtalkfunny has spent on our products in his life.

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NT -- you're right, of course, but it could also be argued that the reason OOT (and 2+2 in general) has so much traffic is because the forum has members that post really well, like youtalkfunny. The fewer of those members there are, the less inclined people will be to spend time on the site, and then the less traffic OOT gets. So that's the argument for keeping valuable posters happy.

Anyway, you and RR have both made solid points and this is just going to have to be an issue where people find a compromise and stick to their own forum's policies, while agreeing to disagree. If not, we're just going to have another petty fight where somebody gets demodded -- which, at the rate we're going, means Mike Haven and Schneids will be the only ones left on the site by Saturday.

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"has so much traffic is because the forum has members that post really well, like youtalkfunny"

agree with all but the last two words. we HAVE been losing some really good posters lately, but their names are daryn, el diablo, yeti, shajen, gildwulf (from BBV4L), etc. these are people who have contributed much more to 2p2, both from a business standpoint and from a content standpoint, than any of these people who a bunch of busybody, holier-than-thou kings of the internet lose their [censored] over every week. and they are leaving precisely because the aforementioned crusaders for 2p2 justice, most of whom wouldn't last 12 hours in any of these high-traffic forums, keep harassing, insulting and attacking them.

why aren't the other mods up in arms about that? jealousy, probably. or just stupidity. or both.