one of the weirdest hands i\'ve played in a while
 

Stats:
UTG: no stats
CO: 64/0/0.79
SB: was kinda loose, no stats

I am going to post this hand, action by action (starting on the flop)


Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $11.25
UTG: $10
Hero (MP): $14.70
CO: $22.75
BTN: $10.80
SB: $2.65

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.40</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.20</font>, CO calls $1.20, BTN folds, SB calls $1.15, BB folds, UTG calls $0.80

Flop: ($4.90) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="blue"> Hero...? </font>


I raised preflop for following reasons:
-TT is a strong hand
-isolate
-buying button
-control over the pot, i take down the pot with a cbet most of the times


What do I do here?

Re: one of the weirdest hands i\'ve played in a while
 

Bet $3.50...

because given your opponents apparent looseness and the fact that they haven't exhibited any strength on the flop, this size of bet (~3/4 pot) should take it down or at least draw info from them relatively cheap. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Hope that helps.

Re: one of the weirdest hands i\'ve played in a while
 

come on dude, if you give an advice explain and elaborate it and not just tell him what to do next... I hate these kinds of posts

Re: one of the weirdest hands i\'ve played in a while
 

I call pf for set value.

As played, I c/f. TT is not a strong hand on this board 4way. The pot is too big to bet/fold here. You are slightly ahead/way behind and if you bet and get called/raised you are likely way behind.

Re: one of the weirdest hands i\'ve played in a while
 

pf for set value sucks, i already said why i hate it and i think its one of the nittiest things people do

i dont know about checking, since we give our opponents a free card.

Re: one of the weirdest hands i\'ve played in a while
 

I would bet here, $3.50-$4. We 3-bet preflop and took control of the hand. It's a pretty big pot already and I can't stand the thought of giving up this pot without at least trying to pick it up. Given OP's reads that SB and CO are loose, they could have anything with a J being only a tiny part of that range and UTG has checked to us so why not bet it and try to pick it up here? c/f just seems awfully weak.

Re: one of the weirdest hands i\'ve played in a while
 

Raise preflop is fine I guess, but vs an unknown UTG raiser I'd be wairy, but as he flatcalles against 2 earlier flatcallers OOP, i guess he is not holding a monster. The one most likely to hold a slowplayed premium is the CO.
In this particular situation, a c-bet is fine i guess. This is like the best board you can get if you are holding TT.
No likely sets there except 88 and maybe JJ (which would be played harder preflop i guess).

So just c-bet $3 and see what happens. Check fold line is way to weak and you have shown massive strength preflop by 3betting a UTG raiser. So just continue showing massive strength.

If I get called and don't improve @ river ---&gt; Hand is over for me.

Re: one of the weirdest hands i\'ve played in a while
 

Although the raise utg is pretty strong I agree with op here isolating and buying position - also helps narrow his range a lot.

With the flop being 4-way I dont think you have nearly enough strength to bet here. The other 2 who came along seem pretty strong (both calling the 3-bet) aswell as utg obv. The 2 checks to you dont mean much as this is pretty standard play for players at NL10 who hit that flop (or have an overpair) in a 4-way..so Im c/folding..

Re: one of the weirdest hands i\'ve played in a while
 

I definately bet ~3/4 for information. You have position on 2/3 opponents. If CO calls I'm slowing down with such a low pfa.

Re: one of the weirdest hands i\'ve played in a while
 

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I call pf for set value.

As played, I c/f. TT is not a strong hand on this board 4way. The pot is too big to bet/fold here. You are slightly ahead/way behind and if you bet and get called/raised you are likely way behind.

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Might be the best play IF you called prf 4 setvalue, here I raised to be able to win the pot prf or w/ a cb.

As played I auto-contibet : I want to know if I'm ahead or behind, since it's checked to me and no one showed ne strength so far, calling won't be any good. Can't really reduce my hand to hope to spike a T on the turn / river or make a runner runner str8, and folding here is out of the question.
$3 should do the job, board is rainbow and not overly coordinated ( me holding TT and therefore blocking quite some str8 possibilities ) and doesn't give the impression I'm too eager to take it down. The mere fact that I bet ( even if contibet ) into a 4way pot shows enough strength on it's own, I wouldn't need to add more weight by the size here.

Fold to a raise obviously, if called proceed turn w/ caution...

rgz,
Mris