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CruS 09-19-2007 09:21 AM

QJs from MP
 
Villian is 20/16 with a high aggro factor over a great sample

What do you think about this line?


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($35.15)
Hero ($29.05)
CO ($34.35)
Button ($8.20)
SB ($23)
BB ($31.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, CO calls $0.85, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.05) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, CO calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5.05) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.25</font>, CO calls $3.25.

River: ($11.55) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $14.5</font>, Hero calls $7.25.

Final Pot: $40.55

Perk76 09-19-2007 09:28 AM

Re: QJs from MP
 
I normally wont continue in this hand on the turn unless I think CO is floating a ton.

As played I think you need to call the river since your hand definately is not defined as a straight and his hand could easily be a set/2pair hand. He can have a flush but you are getting 4.4 - 1 to call on the river.

0524432 09-19-2007 09:37 AM

Re: QJs from MP
 
Yea thats a hyper aggro line but aggro can work, I think 7x and Jx is min raising you on the river there, maybe 2p...I'm curious what he called the flop/turn with and min raised the river after smooth calling a MP raise from the CO

CruS 09-19-2007 09:39 AM

Re: QJs from MP
 
I could not put him on a hand that beat mine except maybe 76spades

Sorcerer808 09-19-2007 09:58 AM

Re: QJs from MP
 
This is good, if the river bricks, do you fire the 3rd barrel?

CruS 09-19-2007 10:23 AM

Re: QJs from MP
 
depends on the card I guess, but normally I would not, thinking his hand is something like 2p / set and calls me rather often

Sorcerer808 09-19-2007 11:59 AM

Re: QJs from MP
 
FWIW, I somewhat feel that if your bluffing this turn you gotta bluff the river too, he could be playing like this with so many draws. I would shut down on turn myself or fire the river too.

0524432 09-19-2007 12:18 PM

Re: QJs from MP
 
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I could not put him on a hand that beat mine except maybe 76spades

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45s/57s

CruS 09-19-2007 03:41 PM

Re: QJs from MP
 
you think he calls me pf with 67s? 45 I can buy but he's not that loose.

GSykes 09-19-2007 03:42 PM

Re: QJs from MP
 
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FWIW, I somewhat feel that if your bluffing this turn you gotta bluff the river too, he could be playing like this with so many draws. I would shut down on turn myself or fire the river too.

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Not necessarily you get many players who will float flop bets and shut down automatically to turn aggression.

That being said if im flatted on two streets and I am caught with my pecker in the wing with Q high on this board, I rather just check.


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