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Aquadougs 12-01-2007 02:54 PM

NL50: QQ: Villain 4bets preflop
 
Villain: 75/35/1,3 (28)


Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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CO: $67.43
BTN: $47.75
Hero (SB): $50
BB: $54.25
UTG: $174.97

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $3</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $3, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.50</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $25</font>


What is his range?
Should I push?

Cueballmania 12-01-2007 02:58 PM

Re: NL50: QQ: Villain 4bets preflop
 
JJ+, AK. I don't fold QQ against someone with those stats. Shove.

bsball8806 12-01-2007 03:00 PM

Re: NL50: QQ: Villain 4bets preflop
 
I've seen 75/35's do this with 88-10's, and AQs too.

Cueballmania 12-01-2007 03:10 PM

Re: NL50: QQ: Villain 4bets preflop
 
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I've seen 75/35's do this with 88-10's, and AQs too.

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Oh, so have I. But UTG I narrow it somewhat. What I posted was worse case scenario.

limit refugee 12-01-2007 03:12 PM

Re: NL50: QQ: Villain 4bets preflop
 
UTG is very deep and very aggro and enjoying his stack pushing everyone around. Easy push.

I see all kinds of pocket pairs doing this, and am not really thinking about a 70/35ers positional awareness too much to care that he is UTG.

Khaos4k 12-01-2007 03:52 PM

Re: NL50: QQ: Villain 4bets preflop
 
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I've seen 75/35's do this with 88-10's, and AQs too.

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Oh, so have I. But UTG I narrow it somewhat. What I posted was worse case scenario.

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I don't think a 75/35 has any clue whatsoever about the advantages of position.

stu-unger 12-01-2007 04:02 PM

Re: NL50: QQ: Villain 4bets preflop
 
i dont fold QQ of w/o a sign from above, and i dont think that its a leak...

bsball8806 12-01-2007 04:02 PM

Re: NL50: QQ: Villain 4bets preflop
 
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I've seen 75/35's do this with 88-10's, and AQs too.

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Oh, so have I. But UTG I narrow it somewhat. What I posted was worse case scenario.

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I don't think a 75/35 has any clue whatsoever about the advantages of position.

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Agree

CyberMuppet 12-01-2007 04:37 PM

Re: NL50: QQ: Villain 4bets preflop
 
I would push, against a 75/30 I don't fold QQ pf without divine intervention.

Aquadougs 12-02-2007 12:21 AM

Re: NL50: QQ: Villain 4bets preflop
 
How "good" should his stats be to consider folding/calling with this hand in this situation?


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