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ruapho 04-27-2007 06:25 PM

Aces vs action
 
Poker Room skin
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $10.75
UTG+1: $30.60
Hero: $27.85
MP2: $58.85
CO: $25.85
Button: $108.05
SB: $19.00
BB: $6.60

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 3-bets</font>, 3 folds, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (12.5SB, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (12.25BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (15.25BB, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Results:
Final pot: 15.25BB

Is capping the flop here good play ? Should i raise the Turn ?

thx

kerowo 04-27-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Aces vs action
 
Reads would be good. I really don't like BB c/3betting this board and don't think I would cap. It really smells like a set or a lucky QJ. I like the turn call, river is standard, if it were heads up I'd be tempted to bluff this river, especially if I had seen villain fold on a scary board before.

ruapho 04-27-2007 06:39 PM

Re: Aces vs action
 
I want to isolate MP2. Bad Idea ? I should be more alerted to c/r. Guess the only hand playing c/3bet i can beat, is AK.

mmctrab 04-27-2007 07:02 PM

Re: Aces vs action
 
*grunch*

I'm not raising the turn on such a coordinated board. I don't think I'm capping the flop after BB check raises the field.

Shillx 04-27-2007 07:52 PM

Re: Aces vs action
 
How often are you winning when the flop goes bet-raise-reraise?

Buzz-cp 04-28-2007 02:37 AM

Re: Aces vs action
 
flop cap is pretty bad. we have no [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] redraw and if we are behind, we are way behind.

marchron 04-30-2007 10:39 AM

Re: Aces vs action
 
Fold the turn. Your A's are dead and the J's are pretty dirty.

Point Blank 04-30-2007 12:58 PM

Re: Aces vs action
 
IMO flop cap is pretty bad: you don't have equity to raise here, and also MP2 raise you already (wouldn't you like to see what his move is?)
[ QUOTE ]
I want to isolate MP2

[/ QUOTE ]
what? ... i assume you mean BB
what hands do you thinking you're going to isolate on this board?
why do you want to isolate a player that checked-3bet!

the turn couldn't be worse, i don't care that we have a gut shot now (split+flush already on the board means I'm out)

Douglas Leslie 04-30-2007 02:05 PM

Re: Aces vs action
 
Grunch:

Cap the flop? I am folding it. You have just been check/3bet and I have never seen anyone bet like this with less than a set. You could easily be behind both opponents, but I think you are certainly behind the check raiser. In that event you have two possible outs and the A hearts is tainted. Even in the unlikely event that you are still ahead there are many cards that could kill you and you have no backdoor flush possibiliy of your own. You have top pair against two opponents who are betting very strongly. It is going to be very expensive to take this hand to the river, so let it go. Does this make me weak/tight?

whoshotfirst 04-30-2007 06:09 PM

Re: Aces vs action
 
[ QUOTE ]
How often are you winning when the flop goes bet-raise-reraise?

[/ QUOTE ]
Do you say fold, or call?

I think I call the flop, but it's probably a pretty bad call. No way we are good on turn, and no good draw so I fold. I wonder what vilains could have here. MP2 AK with As, BB QJs/TT/99 maybe?


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