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loosbastard 11-22-2007 03:26 PM

Top set (deepish) on SOAKING wet board.
 
Villain is Minsk33. He's 2+2 and almost surely a winner in these games. IMO he cold-calls a little too much pre, but otherwise I haven't seen any glaring weaknesses yet. He also seems to call me down reaaaally light FWIW. He probably has me anywhere from 20/17 to 25/21.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $264.45
BTN: $177.75
SB: $128.20
BB: $62.05
Hero (UTG): $185.20
MP: $157.70

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP folds, CO calls $4, 3 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $20</font>, Hero calls $13

Turn: ($49.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $80</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $161.20 and is All-In</font>

the machine 11-22-2007 03:28 PM

Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.
 
i dont understand the flop if you are sticking it in on the turn. that card shouldnt make a huge difference and he shouldnt be stacking off now if he has a queen only.

if were content getting it AI here then i think we should 3b hte flop

Shizzle12345 11-22-2007 03:29 PM

Re: Top set (deepish) on SOAKING wet board.
 
fistpump etc? too bad he had AJ of hearts :P

grando 11-22-2007 03:32 PM

Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.
 
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i dont understand the flop if you are sticking it in on the turn. that card shouldnt make a huge difference and he shouldnt be stacking off now if he has a queen only.

if were content getting it AI here then i think we should 3b hte flop

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waiting to see if the 4th heart comes out before making a move is good a lot of the time

loosbastard 11-22-2007 03:32 PM

Re: Top set (deepish) on SOAKING wet board.
 
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fistpump etc? too bad he had AJ of hearts :P

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Clear fistpump IMO. Just wondering if this is an ok line against a reg.

loosbastard 11-22-2007 03:33 PM

Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.
 
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waiting to see if the 4th heart comes out before making a move is good a lot of the time

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Villain is 2+2 though.

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if were content getting it AI here then i think we should 3b hte flop

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Considered it, but I really didn't like the idea of a 3-bet here. If the money goes in on the flop, I'm in much worse shape than if it goes in on a blank turn.

the machine 11-22-2007 03:36 PM

Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.
 
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i dont understand the flop if you are sticking it in on the turn. that card shouldnt make a huge difference and he shouldnt be stacking off now if he has a queen only.

if were content getting it AI here then i think we should 3b hte flop

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waiting to see if the 4th heart comes out before making a move is good a lot of the time

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explain why?

imo when we dont see the card come out and hes still jamming it up we should logically think he has a flush, no? then we stick our money in with worse equity then we have on the flop. letting him set his own price on the flop prices him into drawing on us then we basically have to c/f or b/f any heart turn.

Shizzle12345 11-22-2007 03:37 PM

Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.
 
depends on feel imo how i play this. history with villain and how i think he views me. I like it.

the machine 11-22-2007 03:38 PM

Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.
 
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if were content getting it AI here then i think we should 3b hte flop

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Considered it, but I really didn't like the idea of a 3-bet here. If the money goes in on the flop, I'm in much worse shape than if it goes in on a blank turn.

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how is this possible. people stack off with FD's on the flop all the time but are not so prone to do so on hte turn with one card left to come where they dont have as much equity

Imrahil 11-22-2007 03:39 PM

Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.
 
I just get it in on the flop.


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