100NL - QQ versus decent TAG on drawy flop
 

Carlos Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button <font color="#C00000">Button ($101.50)</font>
SB SB ($160.20)
BB ($47.00)
UTG ($47.15)
UTG+1 ($28.00)
CO <font color="#C00000">Hero ($102.00)</font>

Preflop: Hero is in the CO with Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero raises to 3.50, Button calls 3.50, SB calls 3.00, 1 fold.

Flop (11.50) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB checks, Hero bets 10.00, Button raises to 20.00, 1 fold, Hero ...

Villain is 20/16, flop AF 2.3 (datamined), looks decent. I haven't seen him minraise the flop before; I'm playing 24/21.

Do I raise him right here? Check/shove a blank turn? Problem with the last one is that there aren't that many nice turn cards...

Re: 100NL - QQ versus decent TAG on drawy flop
 

i'd raise, minreraises are often crap, you've got overs and the backdoor draw.

Re: 100NL - QQ versus decent TAG on drawy flop
 

Raise is the right thing to do here, you got the best hand most of the time.

Re: 100NL - QQ versus decent TAG on drawy flop
 

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Raise is the right thing to do here, you got the best hand most of the time.

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Yes, I think I have the best hand now, but when I 3bet this flop he'll fold his weak hands and only call me with his strong hands.

Re: 100NL - QQ versus decent TAG on drawy flop
 

call and c/r most turns (especially [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]'s)
if he's bluffing you get more value out of future bets, he will fold all hands you beat to a raise (why let him get away from A8/PP?)

Re: 100NL - QQ versus decent TAG on drawy flop
 

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call and c/r most turns (especially [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]'s)

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Hmm, I had the [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] turns on my list of non-safe cards. If he's not raising this flop with a made hand but with something I currently beat, then I'd expect flush draws to be a decent part of his range.

Re: 100NL - QQ versus decent TAG on drawy flop
 

he could have a set here and act like he s drawing i would call and bet the turn if u get raised i think ur beat

Re: 100NL - QQ versus decent TAG on drawy flop
 

call, don't shove. see what the turn brings and how he acts

Re: 100NL - QQ versus decent TAG on drawy flop
 

I'm confused. If we call then whats our "plan" on the turn. We don't just call without a plan. Do we ch/rai safe cards, lead again, what?

Re: 100NL - QQ versus decent TAG on drawy flop
 

If I called, I'd lead safe turns.