What to do on river when passive villain wakes up?
 

I've got a situation that im unsure of what the best thing to do is, i need reasoning above straight answers...

The Villain in this situation is bad, station, playing ~60/8 or somethn.
Effective stacks is given on river split. But atleast 100bb ($100)

Preflop villain openlimps ($1) from MP, You raise it up ($5) with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] from the button, all folds but villain, who calls.

So far, you are not surprised at all by his play. Not his openlimp, or his call.

Pot is $13
Flop comes 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villain checks, but you know he's a station so you bet $11, Villain calls.
- What range can we put villain on here?

Turn 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], does nothing. Pot is now $35.

Villain checks again, you're going $28, He calls.
- Does the range were putting him on on flop changes here?

Pot is now $91, and the river brings T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]..
Villain wakes up and openpushes...

a) 100bb's effective stacks (push is $56, giving us 3:1)
b) 140bb's effective stacks (push is $96, giving us 2:1)

a & b) Why do we do what?

x) Is this always a flush or can it be something else from this villain?

Im sure this is standard for you, but id like som reasoning behind ur answers..

Re: What to do on river when passive villain wakes up?
 

call with 100bb tough but might fold if deeper

call bc we are getting 3:1 vs donk when we have a set.
fold deeper bc he has flush too often

Re: What to do on river when passive villain wakes up?
 

This is a flush no less than 85% of the time.

Re: What to do on river when passive villain wakes up?
 

I think this villain has a flush more than 75% so i would fold a) and b)

Re: What to do on river when passive villain wakes up?
 

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This is a flush no less than 85% of the time.

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72% of stats are made up

still seems like a fold tho.

Re: What to do on river when passive villain wakes up?
 

i call these way too much against passive players and it almost always is a flush. I have a hard time finding a fold button, but that is the right answer most of the time

Re: What to do on river when passive villain wakes up?
 

Pretty standard fold. Unless you've seen villain splashing around spewing chips this is rarely a bluff. With villain on your right surely you can find better spots to get your money in.

Re: What to do on river when passive villain wakes up?
 

dunno how often we're ahead here. seem everytime i call river i see a flush

Re: What to do on river when passive villain wakes up?
 

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Pretty standard fold. Unless you've seen villain splashing around spewing chips this is rarely a bluff. With villain on your right surely you can find better spots to get your money in.

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if reverserd then, lets say i open for a raise and he calls OTB, and calls my flop and turn bet IP. How do we play river OOP?

Re: What to do on river when passive villain wakes up?
 

I don't fold with either stacks against a complete moron. These guys are just too random. He might even think KT is the nuts, he might be shoving bottom pair because he doesn't want to give up the pot. He might have slowplayed 44 and is now pushing for value.

Bet the pot on each street. He's a fish, get money in there.