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dandelos 10-02-2007 09:21 PM

50NL Flopped a set of Jacks
 
Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($20.50)
BB ($10)
Hero ($39.75)
UTG+1 ($25.25)
MP1 ($41.20)
MP2 ($25.60)
MP3 ($18.05)
CO ($181.80)
Button ($49)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
BB checks, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, MP1 calls $2.50, Button folds, SB calls $2.50, BB folds.

Turn: ($10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, MP1 calls $18, SB folds.

River: ($46) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18.75 (All-In)</font>, MP1 calls $18.75.

Final Pot: $83.50

I think it was wrong to call (rather than raise) on the flop. But -how- wrong, that is the question? Also, should I have acted any differently on the turn (or river, for that matter)?

CalledDownLight 10-02-2007 09:23 PM

Re: Flopped a set of Jacks
 
preflop is a must raise. I don't get the turn overbet at all. Just bet $8. River looks fine.

Chargers In 07 10-02-2007 09:25 PM

Re: Flopped a set of Jacks
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think it was wrong to call (rather than raise) on the flop.

[/ QUOTE ] Action looks all [censored] up since you say you called instead of raised. Don't limp with Jacks, they're a primo hand play them as such.

dandelos 10-02-2007 09:33 PM

Re: Flopped a set of Jacks
 
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preflop is a must raise. I don't get the turn overbet at all. Just bet $8. River looks fine.

[/ QUOTE ]

The turn overbet was because I was pretty sure MP1 was on a draw so I wanted to make him pay to see the river. Why was the sizing of it wrong?

litemyfire 10-03-2007 12:05 AM

Re: Flopped a set of Jacks
 
pre flop - JJ is the 4th best starting hand. If your not raising with this then what are you raising with?

flop - sweet

turn - you obv want to bet enough so you can go all in on the river, but you dont need to overbet to offer him incorrect odds to draw. A pot size bet would offer him 2:1, which is incorrect odds for an 8-outer, especially since you can fill up if the board pairs.

If you had of bet $10 and he called, your all in bet on the river would be roughly $26 into a $30 pot which is fine.

River - totally spewy card. If you had played in the way i mentioned i prob would have check/folded or put in a small blocking bet. As played, you are obv. pot committed so arrrrrin is fine.


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