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Miko 10-01-2007 09:39 AM

25NL: AA on turn/river.
 
Villain in the hand is a 24/12 over 100 hands. He plays 4 tables at the same time. Haven't played a hand against him of any means.

2 questions: What do I do on the turn, and how about my river bet?

On the river I narrowed his range down to JT/88 and AQ/QK, w/ more weight on the JT/88 side, something about 70/30 I guess. So I because I'm putting him on that range checking makes no sense (there are no real draws besides 67 on the flop, which he probably folds on the turn) cause he'll check behind weaker hands and bets better. Or do we check here cause we think we don't get another bet out of Qx?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($2.65, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($8.65, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5.25</font>, Button calls, BB folds.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($19.15, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>

Perk76 10-01-2007 09:45 AM

Re: 25NL: AA on turn/river.
 
Sure seems like if he is BB that he bets any of the hands that your scared of at this point on the river. You didnt show the BB checking, but assuming the HH is correct and he did, I like the value bet. There are enough hands that will call you getting 3-1 on a call. AQ/KQ/QJ/JJ/1010. Your betting doesnt look super strong throughout this hand, and I think you would get looked up light.

Cant see a 24/12 checking the river with the nuts/near nuts in this spot.

Rednas 10-01-2007 09:45 AM

Re: 25NL: AA on turn/river.
 
Stack sizes?

Miko 10-01-2007 09:51 AM

Re: 25NL: AA on turn/river.
 
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Stack sizes?

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Sry, 25$ eff stack

Pot is 17$ on the river, 16 or something behind.

Miko 10-01-2007 09:54 AM

Re: 25NL: AA on turn/river.
 
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Sure seems like if he is BB that he bets any of the hands that your scared of at this point on the river. You didnt show the BB checking, but assuming the HH is correct and he did, I like the value bet. There are enough hands that will call you getting 3-1 on a call. AQ/KQ/QJ/JJ/1010. Your betting doesnt look super strong throughout this hand, and I think you would get looked up light.

Cant see a 24/12 checking the river with the nuts/near nuts in this spot.

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You misread the HH, BB folded the turn.

Perk76 10-01-2007 09:58 AM

Re: 25NL: AA on turn/river.
 
Ah,,,

If your disciplined enough to bet/fold on this river then I like it. I also think that you would get alot of value from c/c in this spot since the button will fire on a check from you alot of the time from worse hands and busted 67 type hands.

Rednas 10-01-2007 10:07 AM

Re: 25NL: AA on turn/river.
 
Against an aggressive villain, I like a check to induce a bluff.
Against a passive villain, I would valuebet for sure.

Villain probably is something between aggressive and passive [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
I don't know what his AF is, but I think he would raise somewhere with 88/JT.
It would suck if we bet and villain raises all in, but I think we have the best hand here a lot of the time and villain will pay off with Qx.


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