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automat 11-18-2007 09:00 AM

PLO50: Donk bet on the river into king hi flush
 
ok, to promote my super-nit image on this forum, one more hand [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]:

PL $0.25/$0.50 Omaha - Saturday, November 17, 20:32:01 GMT 2007
Table Loire 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: John Rambo ( $127.45 )
Seat 2: Cooler80 ( $52.75 )
Seat 3: lucatt ( $43.83 )
Seat 4: IneverWin84 ( $49.50 )
Seat 5: grudev ( $50 )
Seat 6: automat ( $47.75 )
IneverWin84 posts small blind [$0.25]
grudev posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to automat [ 7h, 9s, Kc, Ks ]
automat calls [$0.50]
John Rambo calls [$0.50]
Cooler80 calls [$0.50]
lucatt calls [$0.50]
IneverWin84 folds
grudev checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, 7d, 4s ]
grudev checks
automat checks
John Rambo checks
Cooler80 checks
lucatt checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
grudev bets [$2.75]
automat calls [$2.75]
John Rambo folds
Cooler80 calls [$2.75]
lucatt folds
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
grudev bets [$11]
hero?


sure, I shouldīve raised before the flop. as played, both the flop check and turn call are ok I think, but whatīs my river line now that Iīve made the nut flush? more importantly, what hand can sb make that river bet with? is there any hand really that can call a shove?

CorvusMonedula 11-18-2007 09:15 AM

Re: PLO50: Donk bet on the river into king hi flush
 
If he bets the turn with a made str8 and flush redraw he could bet the river with non nut flush. You can't assume he's just making this bet with the straight flush... can you?

I-Love-Poker 11-18-2007 09:17 AM

Re: PLO50: Donk bet on the river into king hi flush
 
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If he bets the turn with a made str8 and flush redraw he could bet the river with non nut flush. You can't assume he's just making this bet with the straight flush... can you?

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automat 11-18-2007 09:22 AM

Re: PLO50: Donk bet on the river into king hi flush
 
no i canīt. but assuming he made a non-nut flush, will he make a pot size bet or rather a small one that can fold to a raise? he has to assume heīs up against str8 and/or flush draws once he gets called in two places on the turn, right?

CorvusMonedula 11-18-2007 09:34 AM

Re: PLO50: Donk bet on the river into king hi flush
 
You have a point. Do you have any reads? There certainly possibilities other than a straight flush. Villain might not have thought about what his opponents are holding. He could put both opponents on a bare str8 perhaps - or villain could just be a donk.

If your inner eye is saying straight flush then just call.

plzbenice 11-18-2007 09:59 AM

Re: PLO50: Donk bet on the river into king hi flush
 
i guess he doesnt call a raise with worse? then just call.
i mean you re not thinking of folding right?

DeucesNeverLoses 11-18-2007 10:04 AM

Re: PLO50: Donk bet on the river into king hi flush
 
insta raise min or go all in its plo 50 cmon

automat 11-18-2007 10:06 AM

Re: PLO50: Donk bet on the river into king hi flush
 
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i guess he doesnt call a raise with worse? then just call.
i mean you re not thinking of folding right?

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never ever. i just think i canīt win a lot more but lose a lot more by raising in that spot. not sure wether iīm right in thinking so.

no reads on villain btw.

automat 11-18-2007 10:14 AM

Re: PLO50: Donk bet on the river into king hi flush
 
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insta raise min or go all in its plo 50 cmon

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thing is, this being plo50 made me think itīs really, really probable villain would choose the worst option available making the stone cold nuts on the river. i mean, every reasonable player would assume being up against two good draws, hence being able to check-raise one or both of them all-in, making a fold impossible after being comitted. he might bet 1/3-1/2 pot as well feigning weakness and hence inducing a raise he could come over the top of. a bad player would just bet out as he may fear not winning enough money.

wrong?

RoundTower 11-18-2007 11:23 AM

Re: PLO50: Donk bet on the river into king hi flush
 
a bad player might also look you up with a lower flush here.


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