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DeucesNeverLoses 11-15-2007 05:06 AM

AA rag rag vs. pot repot
 
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($49.25)
BB ($27.10)
UTG ($52.45)
MP ($57.60)
Hero ($72.45)
Button ($127.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $5.50, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $26.25</font>, Hero...?

I figure button might go all in if I just call here, so is trying to isolate the best play here?

CorvusMonedula 11-15-2007 07:54 AM

Re: AA rag rag vs. pot repot
 
Push

moon_ake 11-15-2007 09:55 AM

Re: AA rag rag vs. pot repot
 
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Push

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Kala1928 11-15-2007 10:43 AM

Re: AA rag rag vs. pot repot
 
minraise to get BB along

CrushinFelt 11-15-2007 10:49 AM

Re: AA rag rag vs. pot repot
 
If there was ever a time to lay down aces I think this might be it (very strong evidence that UTG also has Aces plus the button raise and the BB col-call make me think that there's very little chance this flop is going to be less than 3 people). Not that it's terrible to get all-in with Aces in a 3-way pot, but when one of the other parties has AA as well I think BB has odds to call with any decent hand.

wazz 11-15-2007 10:59 AM

Re: AA rag rag vs. pot repot
 
No way. This spot calls for a counterintuitive play IMO. Just call, your hand looks like a good rundown or KKxx, hope that button recognises that and tries to push to isolate. If you flatcall and button calls behind instashove over UTG when he leads most flops.

CrushinFelt 11-15-2007 11:06 AM

Re: AA rag rag vs. pot repot
 
Wazz I feel like the way you want to play it is allowing the button to play way too optimally. You're only going to have a PSB left after the flop and with UTG's money in there his odds are going to be astronomical.

Also, this could be a spot where BB tags along if he's closing the action. And also, you may not be +EV if yuo get it all in preflop against button if UTG has aces, which he is screaming that he has.

moon_ake 11-15-2007 11:55 AM

Re: AA rag rag vs. pot repot
 
Calling is the worst move here IMO. our aces are not good enough to play a 3-way pot with only a PSB left.

Rob121 11-15-2007 12:08 PM

Re: AA rag rag vs. pot repot
 
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folding is the worst move here IMO. push

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plzbenice 11-15-2007 02:08 PM

Re: AA rag rag vs. pot repot
 
Ac 7c Ah 4h 105190 21.04 242529 48.51 152281 30.46 0.363
As Kc 8c Ad 44101 8.82 304424 60.88 151475 30.30 0.240
8s 6d 5d 7h 198428 39.69 300766 60.15 806 0.16 0.398

pokenum -mc 500000 -o ah 4h ac 7c - ad kc 8c as
Omaha Hi: 500000 sampled boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac 7c Ah 4h 155677 31.14 63515 12.70 280808 56.16 0.592
As Kc 8c Ad 63515 12.70 155677 31.14 280808 56.16 0.408


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