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Acevader 11-29-2007 05:07 PM

Re: NL100: blind battle flopped aces up line check
 
This hand is played perfectly if you now call river. No need to bet that flop, absolutely MUST call the turn as played and should USUALLY call the river without a specific read or very worrying Hud stat to suggest otherwise.

wikemang 11-29-2007 05:18 PM

Re: NL100: blind battle flopped aces up line check
 
Flop check should be meant to extract value. As such, you should be calling turn and river.

pureCra2z 11-29-2007 06:00 PM

Re: NL100: blind battle flopped aces up line check
 
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Flop check is good cause you either WA/WB. He probably c/fs all non A/7 hands to a flop bet so checking allows him to bluff later streets and you to lose less when your behind

Id probably call river cause Im a station

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I snap-called river and Villain showed AQo for higher kicker. I went back to check and his AF was slightly less than 1 so I wasn't really sure.

The Eureka Kid 11-29-2007 06:44 PM

Re: NL100: blind battle flopped aces up line check
 
I really like the way you played it, I think river is an easy call since you induced him to bet into you.

SABR42 11-29-2007 06:48 PM

Re: NL100: blind battle flopped aces up line check
 
Call river after flop check.

Jeff76 11-29-2007 07:12 PM

Re: NL100: blind battle flopped aces up line check
 
I assume everyone who says call would play KK exactly the same way here?

CalledDownLight 11-29-2007 07:19 PM

Re: NL100: blind battle flopped aces up line check
 
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I assume everyone who says call would play KK exactly the same way here?

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nah, I'd fold KK on the river sometimes, but never folding this hand.

ship_it_trebek 11-29-2007 09:55 PM

Re: NL100: blind battle flopped aces up line check
 
Shouldn't we fire at this flop with KK too?

Baja15 11-29-2007 10:01 PM

Re: NL100: blind battle flopped aces up line check
 
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Flop check should be meant to extract value. As such, you should be calling turn and river.

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As for firing with KK, for me it's villain dependent. If i thought the villain was the type to bluff the ace on later streets then i would check and just let them fire. Usually i'm betting this though for around 2/3 pot with most of my 3 betting range

gman339 11-30-2007 02:29 AM

Re: NL100: blind battle flopped aces up line check
 
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if u r going to 3bet PF then make it at least $12.
Bet that flop, you hit your ace.

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The reason I check the flop is to try to keep the pot smaller. Hes not super aggressive and if he had AJ+ and just calls I still wouldn't know where I stand.
If I bet flop, do I fold to a c/r?

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By 3betting pre-flop you've already started to build a big pot. I agree with Brimstead. If I'm 3betting pre I'm going to bet the flop when I hit. If he comes over the top you get away from it.


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