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Pokerguysteve 11-15-2007 07:09 PM

I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
hey guys hows it going? Someone told me to come here with my situation. Anyway, my main site is Truepoker. I like the graphics and little avators, Im James Bond [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Anyway, I had an account there a couple of years ago, and I played on it a lot. Well, after the UIEGA law came into effect, I e-mailed TP to delete my account because I was scared of getting arrested. I had used my NETeller account to fund it. Well, my friend told me its not against the law to play poker, only to make deposits from your bank or something like that. I would like to go back to Truepoker, but I dont want my old account because its associated with my old NETeller and Firepay account ect... Would it be OK if I created a new account? Will I get my funds taken away like that one lady on fulltilt poker? I really dont want to be associated with my old NETeller or Firepay account because of the UIEGA. Thanks guys for all of your help and if I am not allowed to make a new account at Truepoker, where should I play?
Steve

DMoogle 11-15-2007 07:19 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
From what I've read about it, the UIGEA made it illegal to make specific transfers for the sake of illegal internet gambling, which poker does not specifically fall under the category of. In other words, it's stuff like online sports-betting that's illegal, not poker. Also, they're not targeting players, they're targeting the companies that handle those transactions.

Also, the DoJ probably already has all your Neteller information. The only thing you should possibly fear is an audit if you haven't been paying your taxes. If you still want to create a new account instead of go back to your old one, you should e-mail TruePoker about this issue, and make sure it's OK with them. Although I can't say much for their support as I've sent them two e-mails before (I've never played there, but I was going to check it out) and never received a response. :\

Pokerguysteve 11-15-2007 07:31 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
someone just told me that some guy from truepoker post here. He might be able to let me know. Anyone know who he is? thx!

DMoogle 11-15-2007 07:37 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
Yes, he goes by the username "Truepoker CEO". Unfortunately, the last time I checked, his PM box was full, so you're going to have to wait until (if) he sees this thread.

a nonymous 11-15-2007 07:43 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
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someone just told me that some guy from truepoker post here. He might be able to let me know. Anyone know who he is? thx!

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Why don't you just e-mail support?

Pokerguysteve 11-15-2007 07:53 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
I am going to e-mail support tonight. But my friend Brian told me to come here and ask, that you guys would be able to help me out. I hear TruePoker CEO is really cool, so I just tried to PM him, but his box is full. O well, just my luck lol.

KEW 11-15-2007 08:31 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
This will help you out...You have no valid reason to create a new account...There is nothing to fear...Based on your post I would suggest you spend some time in the Legislation Forum and catching up..You seem to have many misconceptions...



Congressional Hearing Dispels Internet Poker Myths

~ Annie Duke delivers impassioned testimony to the Judiciary Committee ~

Washington, D.C. (November 14, 2007) – Yesterday the House Judiciary Committee, which has key jurisdiction over Internet gaming matters, held a hearing to discuss the inconsistencies with U.S policy. On behalf of the Poker Players Alliance (PPA), Annie Duke testified along with experts on international trade, age-verification technology and representatives from the Departments of Justice and Treasury.

“At its most basic level, the issue before this committee is personal freedom,” Ms. Duke told the Committee. “More than any other value, America is supposed to be about freedom. Except where one's actions directly and necessarily harm another person's life, liberty or property, government in America is supposed to leave the citizenry alone. Examples of Congress straying from this principle are legion, but few are as egregious as UIGEA,” Duke added.

One key outcome of the hearing was the acknowledgement by the DoJ witness, the Honorable Catherine Hanaway, that it is not illegal for an individual to place a wager on the Internet. This confirmation came during questioning from Congressman Bobby Scott (D-VA) and dispels a common misconception that an Internet poker player may be committing a crime by playing poker online.

Another myth that was dismissed was the misguided belief that Internet gaming sites are bastions for terrorist money laundering. Congressman Howard Coble (R-NC) asked Ms. Hanaway if there was any evidence of Internet gaming sites laundering money for terrorist financing. She responded unequivocally that there is no evidence to that effect.

Finally, the myth that it is impossible to provide protections to keep underage persons off gambling Web sites was completely dismissed by Michael Collopy of Aristotle a leading provider of verification services for child protection online. Collopy delivered compelling testimony outlining a number of products and services available today that are nearly 100 percent effective in keeping children of age-restricted Web sites.

All of the witness’ written testimonies as well as video of the entire hearing can be found on the Poker Players Alliance’s Web site, www.pokerplayersalliance.org.

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The Poker Players Alliance www.pokerplayersalliance.org is a non-profit organization advocating on behalf of American poker players.

John A. Pappas
Poker Players Alliance
Executive Director

Alobar 11-15-2007 08:44 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
this is pretty keen insight onto how the unpokereducated among us think (not slamming you OP, just stating the facts), which is kind of sad [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]


anyway, email support

MicroBob 11-15-2007 08:49 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
Info in the first couple of posts is wrong.

No, you aren't going to get arrested for having a neteller account or one that is associated with TruePoker.

No, making bets on sports isn't illegal.
I believe that the UIGEA specifies that the banks or CC's are breaking the law if they knowingly process such transactions.
But the players or bettors themselves are not breaking the law as is reiterated in the above post.

It is true that they definitely seem more concerned with sports-betting than poker players. But it's easy to do either one on many various sites throughout the U.S. and no, you aren't going to get arrested for it.


OP can open his old TP account if that's what he wants to do and the fact that it was associated with an old neteller account does not mean he's going to get arrested.

In the U.S. there are literally thousands and thousands of players on PokerStars and FullTilt and other sites playing on the very same accounts that they had originally funded with neteller. And I don't think any of them are worried about being arrested for it nor should they be.

augie_ 11-15-2007 09:44 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
anyone know why truepoker does not take epassporte?

2easy 11-15-2007 11:02 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
It does.

Pokerguysteve 11-16-2007 01:15 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
ok well thx guys for your help

Markusgc 11-16-2007 02:08 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
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I don't think any of them are worried about being arrested for it nor should they be.

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Does this mean we're true outlaws since we have such a devil-may-care attitude towards our criminal behavior?

MicroBob 11-16-2007 02:35 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
There is no attitude towards our 'criminal behavior' since there is nothing criminal about the behavior.

If there were specific laws about PLAYING internet-poker from the states and there was even the slightest chance you could be prosecuted I think many of us would think twice about playing on the internet and/or cases completely.

Some people believe it is illegal to play poker on the internet but except in a few states this is not the case. I believe the UIGEA is pretty specific that it does NOT make it illegal for the players.

KEW 11-16-2007 02:59 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
"I believe the UIGEA is pretty specific that it does NOT make it illegal for the players".

The UIGEA states that it relies on existing Federal and State Laws...This is why the acknowledgement by the DoJ witness, the Honorable Catherine Hanaway, that it is not illegal for an individual to place a wager on the Internet.Was such a huge acknowledgement to us..Everybody should view this hearing..The DOJ came under great pressure not only on this point but on there selective enforcement of gambling Laws..The DOJ stance has been that ALL internet gambling is illegal(including horse racing and lotteries)..

Bellagibro 11-16-2007 03:00 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
Don't worry you won't be arrested for online gambling.

Well a couple of years ago, I would say the same thing about downloading music.

Halstad 11-16-2007 03:08 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
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...You have no valid reason to create a new account...There is nothing to fear...

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Do you think everyone who had funded their FT, Stars, ABS, or TP account with Neteller went and made a new account because they were afraid of being associated with Neteller?
Seriously you have no reason to worry. Go back to your old account and fund in the way you want/TP will allow.

TruePoker CEO 11-16-2007 03:38 PM

TRUEPOKER, no problem, for either a new account or email Support
 
PokerguySteve,

You will have no problem creating a new TruePoker account, if that is what you want. It is not necessary to do so, however. You can change your deposit method on your old account. I'll make sure and mention this to Support if you need help.

We accept epassporte or credit cards for US players. We also will accept a cashiers check, and pay a 10% immediate bonus on that type of deposit, up to $50 + your FedEx fee if you want to send it that way.

Email marketing@truepoker.com, if you have any questions.

TruePoker CEO

TruePoker CEO 11-16-2007 03:45 PM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
"In the U.S. there are literally thousands and thousands of players on PokerStars and FullTilt and other sites ..."

ALL of them are welcome to open accounts at TruePoker, we do offer a 100% First Time Deposit bonus for new players.

TruePoker CEO 11-16-2007 03:52 PM

Re: PM box full .....
 
My mailbox is perpetually full. The issue is for me has always been that I do not check it daily and left it full so that people would not think I was ignoring their messages. You can always reach me at management@truepoker.com or through support@truepoker.com.

(I'll ask Mason if it would be possible for posters to get email alerts when a pm arrives. If I knew something new was there, I would check for it.)

CAMEL1111 11-16-2007 05:27 PM

Re: TRUEPOKER, no problem, for either a new account or email Support
 
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PokerguySteve,

You will have no problem creating a new TruePoker account, if that is what you want. It is not necessary to do so, however. You can change your deposit method on your old account. I'll make sure and mention this to Support if you need help.

We accept epassporte or credit cards for US players. We also will accept a cashiers check, and pay a 10% immediate bonus on that type of deposit, up to $50 + your FedEx fee if you want to send it that way.

Email marketing@truepoker.com, if you have any questions.

TruePoker CEO

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WOW pretty impressive.

Pokerguysteve 11-16-2007 06:58 PM

Re: TRUEPOKER, no problem, for either a new account or email Support
 
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PokerguySteve,

You will have no problem creating a new TruePoker account, if that is what you want. It is not necessary to do so, however. You can change your deposit method on your old account. I'll make sure and mention this to Support if you need help.

We accept epassporte or credit cards for US players. We also will accept a cashiers check, and pay a 10% immediate bonus on that type of deposit, up to $50 + your FedEx fee if you want to send it that way.

Email marketing@truepoker.com, if you have any questions.

TruePoker CEO

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Thank you thank you thank you very much! I am going to create an account as soon as I get home from work and send some money in via FedEx. I will send a cashier's check of course. Thank you so much, I have missed playing there. It's been over a year. I hope you guys still have the James Bond charactor! Thanks TruePoker CEO your the best and I will recommend your site to everyone!

N 82 50 24 11-16-2007 09:38 PM

Re: PM box full .....
 
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(I'll ask Mason if it would be possible for posters to get email alerts when a pm arrives. If I knew something new was there, I would check for it.)

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I've been getting email PM notifications since I signed up at 2p2... was that something that I opted into years ago?

KEW 11-17-2007 12:03 AM

Re: PM box full .....
 
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My mailbox is perpetually full. The issue is for me has always been that I do not check it daily and left it full so that people would not think I was ignoring their messages. You can always reach me at management@truepoker.com or through support@truepoker.com.

(I'll ask Mason if it would be possible for posters to get email alerts when a pm arrives. If I knew something new was there, I would check for it.)

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Go to MY HOME
under Main Configuration click EDIT next to Subscribe/unsubscribe

The default is to NOT receive e-mail notification

DMoogle 11-17-2007 12:05 AM

Re: PM box full .....
 
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My mailbox is perpetually full. The issue is for me has always been that I do not check it daily and left it full so that people would not think I was ignoring their messages. You can always reach me at management@truepoker.com or through support@truepoker.com.

(I'll ask Mason if it would be possible for posters to get email alerts when a pm arrives. If I knew something new was there, I would check for it.)

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When I sent an e-mail before, I sent it to the management@truepoker.com address and never received a response. However, I'll try sending one to the Support e-mail.

Also, to receive an e-mail notification when you receive a PM, at the top of the forum page, go to "My Home", near the bottom right click "Edit" next to "Subscribe / Unsubscribe from receiving forum posts by email, change message notifications, etc.", select "Yes" for the first option "Do you want email notifications when you receive private messages?", then click Submit. You will then be notified whenever you receive a PM.

Eder 11-17-2007 12:51 AM

Re: PM box full .....
 
TP support has always been excellent....wish they accepted Money bookers though...

Can I have a reload bonus now?

Mr Sarcastic 11-17-2007 09:11 AM

Re: I enjoy playing at TRUEPOKER, but I am kind of worried.
 
I think the worry, if any, from Neteller was "taxes"


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