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AllinDan 01-20-2007 11:56 PM

27t: TPTK vs reraiser
 
tourney just started, have never played with villain before.

edit: I have thoughts on the hand but I want to wait to see what people say first. also, who leads the flop?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1780)
UTG+1 (t1440)
Hero (t1510)
MP2 (t1270)
MP3 (t1570)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1450)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t60</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t60, <font color="red">CO raises to t210</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, Hero calls t150, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>

Flop: (t510) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets t385</font>,
Hero ??

Bastian 01-21-2007 12:05 AM

Re: 27t: TPTK vs reraiser
 
I think I would shove flop into an unknown villain.

Do you play enough to know he's not a regular?

AllinDan 01-21-2007 12:15 AM

Re: 27t: TPTK vs reraiser
 
I only moved up to 27s recently so I don't know, though he wasn't on any of my 10+ other tables for what its worth

Bastian 01-21-2007 12:25 AM

Re: 27t: TPTK vs reraiser
 
Ok as played I think I would shove.

And the decision as to what to do becomes close depending on who the player is, I think.

I like a shove.

If you were thinking about check shoving there anyway, you could try leading that flop againts unknown just to feel him out. In a sense that if you were going to make an all in bet (check/shove), you would call one if he shoves on you anyway.

Might not be the best option, but something to think about.

AllinDan 01-21-2007 12:33 AM

Re: 27t: TPTK vs reraiser
 
are you just sort of hoping he has KQ or he folds? I understand that I have top pair but you haven't thought at all about what villain might hold.

futuredoc85 01-21-2007 12:36 AM

Re: 27t: TPTK vs reraiser
 
the only valid reason to check this flop is to CRAI. villain could have AdXd, random SCs, QQ, AJ,KQ,KT in addition to JJ,KK,AA. if you're even going to consider folding this flop vs an unknown then fold preflop.

Bastian 01-21-2007 12:41 AM

Re: 27t: TPTK vs reraiser
 
Well I don't have too much information.

So for all I know, he could have AA-JJ, but at the same time AJ, KQ or even AK.

KQ is actually probably unlikley.

Use sharkscope man.

Gee, I dunno, I havent played a SnG in maybe 3 weeks. Hope someone could chime in here.

AllinDan 01-21-2007 12:41 AM

Re: 27t: TPTK vs reraiser
 
so would you lead flop or would you CRAI?

don't you think putting KT in his range is a little optimistic?

Green Kool Aid 01-21-2007 12:44 AM

Re: 27t: TPTK vs reraiser
 
I fold to the PFRR.

Bastian 01-21-2007 12:46 AM

Re: 27t: TPTK vs reraiser
 
I feel we have to be (even though its unlikely) becuase we don't know who the villian is.

Use sharkscope.

I think you can do both lead or c/r. Id rather get in first on flop though.


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