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gobucks27 11-13-2007 11:05 PM

$4 180 AQs oop
 
egh......no reads...reraise pf?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t6431)
UTG (t8075)
UTG+1 (t3800)
MP1 (t3425)
MP2 (t4155)
CO (t2170)
Button (t10335)
Hero (t3275)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t400</font>, MP2 calls t400, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t300, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t1400) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t400</font>, Hero folds, MP1 calls t400.

Turn: (t2200) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t600</font>, MP1 calls t600.

River: (t3400) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t600</font>, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: t3400

jchauvin 11-13-2007 11:15 PM

Re: $4 180 AQs oop
 
yeah easy shove preflop

vixticator 11-13-2007 11:17 PM

Re: $4 180 AQs oop
 
Shove preflop seems ultra-standard.

yNnOs 11-13-2007 11:27 PM

Re: $4 180 AQs oop
 
With ante, I'd say standard, but no reads I'd rather play it small. A re-raise pre and you're committed anyway, so if that's the route, push.

Hollywade 11-14-2007 01:36 AM

Re: $4 180 AQs oop
 
Yeah, I hate being OOP and I'm not folding AQs here, so I'd probably reraise to 1500.

gobucks27 11-14-2007 01:58 AM

Re: $4 180 AQs oop
 
shove preflop it is....anyone have a recommendation of what size of stack we would stop shoving here?

yNnOs 11-14-2007 02:07 AM

Re: $4 180 AQs oop
 
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shove preflop it is....anyone have a recommendation of what size of stack we would stop shoving here?

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4500+

quirkasaurus 11-14-2007 10:47 AM

Re: $4 180 AQs oop
 
if the positions were reversed, and Hero had AQs in MP1,
no action yet, still a shove, or just a 3x,4xBB raise?

23Suited 11-14-2007 11:33 AM

Re: $4 180 AQs oop
 
Well first of all I would like to say that the general concensus these days is to shove this pre... so every1 above saying a shove is super-standard is correct... personally I never shove this because I am not afraid of flops or playing people post flop... so I am fine with how you played this... and with effective stacks a re-raise is awkward and a shove is a huge overbet that is preety massively exploitable athough probably not recognizable as such by the majority of tournament players...

As for this...
[ QUOTE ]
if the positions were reversed, and Hero had AQs in MP1,
no action yet, still a shove, or just a 3x,4xBB raise?

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If you were in MP1 with the same hand you would just open raise 600... you wouldnt shove... and no1 is likely to disagree with me on that...

ssnyc 11-14-2007 11:34 AM

Re: $4 180 AQs oop
 
pretty basic...either push pre (not bad given stacks and action) or take your line which is fine also


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