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NinaWilliams 11-27-2007 06:01 AM

Couple pf Qs
 
CO is 45/27 lag after 150 hands, no notes. Button is 58/8/0.6. His postflop game actually seems decent from what ive seen. In both cases, rank our options.

1)
Preflop Hero is SB with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="red"> CO raises </font>, button calls, Hero

2) Same action, Hero now has 77.

inferno 11-27-2007 06:37 AM

Re: Couple pf Qs
 
calls both [censored] it

Hobbs. 11-27-2007 12:51 PM

Re: Couple pf Qs
 
2 is an easy call. In case 1 I've been calling here with AT/KQ/KJish hands mainly because with the cold caller I don't feel the need to bloat the pot OOP by 3-betting but my hand is way too good to fold, so I call.

Pondy 11-27-2007 12:56 PM

Re: Couple pf Qs
 
Both 3-bet.

1. What are you hoping to flop ? not a dominated King.
2. Standard.

KitCloudkicker 11-27-2007 01:00 PM

Re: Couple pf Qs
 
[ QUOTE ]
Both 3-bet.

1. What are you hoping to flop ? not a dominated King.
2. Standard.

[/ QUOTE ]

i dont know what this even means

KitCloudkicker 11-27-2007 01:02 PM

Re: Couple pf Qs
 
i call the KJ. i might 3 the 77, it depends on how CO + button will react to the reraise - specifically, do you think it will make the hand easy to play postflop?

Oink 11-27-2007 01:06 PM

Re: Couple pf Qs
 
A few important things

1) Are those stats filtered? I know I am being a parrot here. Anyway. What do you think CO's range is?

2) Will BB call 1 bet a lot and fold for 2 a lot or is he either very tight or fairly loose? Its important whether 3-betting increases the probability of him folding. So if he is 18/15 or 50/5 you dont need to 3-bet as much as if he is 30/20 who will call for 1 bet with a lot of hands



If CO's range is 40% or more I am 3-betting both if it means I get BB to fold a lot. If not I call both.

If CO's range is only say 35% I am calling both regardless of BB's type

In any case I am never folding here and the thought of folding is ridiculous IMO.


Using stove your eq isnt bad. Prolly a slight edge. There is a semi moron and a huge moron in the pot who are gonna make mistakes postflop.

No way in hell I am folding anything playable. I am prolly playing

22, Axs, A8o, K5s, KTo, Q7s, QTo, J8s, JTo, T7s, 97s, 86s, 76s, 65s.

Depending on blind structure and BB of course. If its a 2/3 blind structure and BB is a 50/5 guy I am not folding 87o or 63s

vmacosta 11-27-2007 05:05 PM

Re: Couple pf Qs
 
i tend to 3-bet both, but I can see an argument for coolcalling the KJ hand.

Oink,
I'd guess vast majority of ppl who have pfr of 27 are opening &gt; 35% in CO.


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