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blumpkin 09-19-2007 06:05 PM

Stud8 Aces up fold
 
7 Card Stud High-Low ($30/$60), Ante $5, Bring-In $10 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.33 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street - (5.33 SB)

Seat 3: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___raises
Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls

5th Street - (8.67 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

mscags 09-19-2007 06:14 PM

Re: Stud8 Aces up fold
 
Alright I'll bite you've lost me on this one Blump. Misclick or something? Closing the action you have to call here not to mention im not totally convinced you are behind yet.

betgo 09-19-2007 06:19 PM

Re: Stud8 Aces up fold
 
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3225208
pokenum -mc 500000 -7s8 3c ah as 3d 6c - jh ad 8s jc js - 6s ac 8c 2c 4c / 8d td th 5s 3s qh
7-card Stud Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled outcomes
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
As 6c 3c 3d Ah 0 26306 473694 0 52698 28959 610 0.079
Js 8s Jc Ad Jh 0 335114 164886 0 0 0 0 0.335
6s Ac 8c 4c 2c 123395 138580 361420 0 446692 52698 610 0.586

Alchemist 09-19-2007 06:49 PM

Re: Stud8 Aces up fold
 
[ QUOTE ]
Alright I'll bite you've lost me on this one Blump. Misclick or something? Closing the action you have to call here not to mention im not totally convinced you are behind yet.

[/ QUOTE ]

Since we can see all the Aces, what could Seat 8 have to put in that much action? Hero's got one out to fill up and needs 2 cards to make any kind of low. I think it's a good fold, and by extension think capping 4th is wrong as well.

HOWMANY 09-19-2007 07:53 PM

Re: Stud8 Aces up fold
 
If you can tell me who seat 8 is I can probably name at least one hand he's played retardedly enough to make me not fold here.

I understand exactly what you're saying and the reasoning behind the fold, and it looks like it was probably a good laydown but I've seen so much retarded stuff that it's hard to fold. If you didn't have the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I think you need to showdown for sure.

2461Badugi 09-19-2007 08:53 PM

Re: Stud8 Aces up fold
 
Why are we jamming fourth with this ridiculously dead hand against A6 and a player who thinks betting into A3 and A6 is a good idea? If he has the slightest clue we need to slow the hell down, and if he doesn't we can't fold fifth.

JoeDimaggio 09-19-2007 08:57 PM

Re: Stud8 Aces up fold
 
wow That would be tough for me to fold considering there's literally only about 1 hand he could have there unless he's on some insane bluff, which as said already I've seen some really terrible moves by other people in spots like this before, at this level and a little lower. Really gross position for you, but I would imagine it was a great fold.

HOWMANY 09-19-2007 09:00 PM

Re: Stud8 Aces up fold
 
BTW if this is a HORSE game it's an auto call down as he can be retardedly raising AJKA or whatever.

blumpkin 09-19-2007 09:24 PM

Re: Stud8 Aces up fold
 
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BTW if this is a HORSE game it's an auto call down as he can be retardedly raising AJKA or whatever.

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stars stud8

blumpkin 09-19-2007 09:30 PM

Re: Stud8 Aces up fold
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think it's a good fold, and by extension think capping 4th is wrong as well.

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I thought that by capping 4th I could see if would still lead 5th, allowing me to make what I thought would be a smart fold. Otherwise, it wouldn't be as clear, and it might cost me on the big bet streets.


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