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KurtSF 11-01-2007 01:35 AM

NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?
 
No real reads, but villain was playing a lot of hands. All comments welcome, especially what a loose player might have here, and advice about betsizing.


Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $10
BTN: $68
SB: $47.95
BB: $35.40
Hero (UTG): $54
UTG+1: $47.75
MP1: $13.15
MP2: $29.85

CO posts $0.50
Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 6 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3

Turn: ($10.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, BB calls $6

River: ($22.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10</font>, BB calls $10

bottomset 11-01-2007 01:37 AM

Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?
 
bet more on the flop and turn

river is a bad card, but I think a bet is fine

Ryanj37 11-01-2007 01:38 AM

Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?
 
Looks fine although id probably go a little more on each postflop street.

TJ Eckleburg12 11-01-2007 01:39 AM

Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?
 
I think you should bet closer to the pot on the flop, and on the turn.

For the river, maybe I'm a bitch, but I check through frequently. Even though you didn't get check-raised, it seems like I always am getting check-raised there.

speedle 11-01-2007 01:40 AM

Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?
 
I agree with bottomset.

Dont really know if i'd check behind in the river or not, but i dont think i'd bet $10 on it.

mce86 11-01-2007 03:28 AM

Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?
 
I think the bets are fine IMO. Maybe slightly more on the turn since there are now two draws out. I might of just checked behind, a bluff would have lead out here. AK?

seki 11-01-2007 12:13 PM

Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?
 
If he's calling the river, I assume a crappy 2p. The flop bet is ok w/ me assuming it's in line with most of your c-bets, but I'd bet the turn closer to 8-9. I'd probably check behind on the river.

I'm guessing QT, or JThh. Even a potato would raise AK on the river.

KurtSF 11-01-2007 12:55 PM

Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?
 
Yeah seki, I thought QT was the only likely hand that beat me on the river (though of course QJ or something had me from the flop). So I didn't think the river beat me, but with the super passive play I figured either FD or a WA/WB line with AQ or KQ was most likely.

Spoiler alert: turns out I got pretty good value against AdJd. Do I get these calls if I make bigger bets?

coordi 11-01-2007 01:06 PM

Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?
 
Id deffinately bet more on each street. 4-4.50/8-9/15 or i might check with no reads

seki 11-01-2007 01:07 PM

Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?
 
Wow


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