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justatrey 12-01-2007 12:22 PM

$6.50: 4 BBs thin shove UTG. Standard?
 
I have more third places than anything else (My dist. is 11/14/16 after over 3,000 sngs) which I'm trying to fix with shoves like this.

Its +.03 w/ everyone calling 55+,ATo+,A8s+,KQs which is very tight at a 6.50. Standard?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t2755)
BB (t4175)
Hero (t2205)
MP (t2160)
Button (t2205)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2205</font>

Belgarion1988 12-01-2007 01:03 PM

Re: $6.50: 4 BBs thin shove UTG. Standard?
 
I don't like pushing into 4 players there also if you have an tight image...just try to steal blinds vs one or even two players

warrantofice 12-01-2007 01:10 PM

Re: $6.50: 4 BBs thin shove UTG. Standard?
 
Interesting position. The blinds are very large, thing is though that your shoving into the big stack which is something our gonna wanna try to avoid. I think your just, just large enough to take the next big blind and not be ultra desperate, so you'll still have some clout with a push w/ 1600 in chips. I think you would be much better to wait and push against the two small stacks that MP and the Button have in the next couple of hands.
So no, i don't push with K6s in this spot, however if it was three handed or the blinds were larger than yah, your gonna need to gamble soon.

vers 12-01-2007 03:26 PM

Re: $6.50: 4 BBs thin shove UTG. Standard?
 
I think this is pretty thin at a 6.50 and am doubtful that everyone calls quite that tight at this level. Also you have 5.5 BB, not 4.

DannyOcean_ 12-01-2007 04:08 PM

Re: $6.50: 4 BBs thin shove UTG. Standard?
 
I don't like this at all. People are calling with more aces than you think, and often any broadway. If you increase one players range by only a couple of hands, this is -EV. Not a good shove.

HajiShirazu 12-01-2007 04:18 PM

Re: $6.50: 4 BBs thin shove UTG. Standard?
 
I thought this was close and couldn't possibly be real bad but it is really, you have to fold.

justatrey 12-01-2007 05:00 PM

Re: $6.50: 4 BBs thin shove UTG. Standard?
 
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I think this is pretty thin at a 6.50 and am doubtful that everyone calls quite that tight at this level. Also you have 5.5 BB, not 4.

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You're right; I'm not sure what made me think it was 4. Was thinking once blinds hit I'd have almost no FE left. Thanks.


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