Two pair can suck sometimes
 

Villian quite passive at 23/4/1 over 50 or so hands.

A good line to extract value? Shove river? Or should i be folding somewhere?

Bit lost on the river.
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5 players, seat 8 is the button

Seat 1: BB ($156.13)
Seat 5: UTG ($84.75)
Seat 6: <font color="#C80000">Hero</font> ($181.35)
Seat 8: BTN ($86.15)
Seat 10: SB ($84.05)

SB posts small blind, $0.50
BB posts big blind, $1.00

Dealing to <font color="#C80000">Hero</font>:
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UTG folds
<font color="#C80000">Hero</font> raises to $4
BTN folds
SB calls
BB calls

Dealing flop: (Pot is $12.00)
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SB bets $7
BB calls
<font color="#C80000">Hero</font> raises to $20
SB calls
BB calls

Dealing turn: (Pot is $72.00)
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SB checks
BB checks
<font color="#C80000">Hero</font> bets $50
SB folds
BB calls

Dealing river: (Pot is $172.00)
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BB bets $52

Re: Two pair can suck sometimes
 

List some hands you think you beat....I pokerstoved it and put in AA, KK, and J9 (all discounted somewhat) and you have 19% equity...

Board: Jd Td 7c 5h 9s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 19.355% 19.35% 00.00% 6 0.00 { JsTs }
Hand 1: 80.645% 80.65% 00.00% 25 0.00 { AcAh, AcAs, AdAs, KcKh, KcKs, KQs, 9c8c, 9d8d, 9h8h, KQo, Jh9c, Js9c, Js9d, 9c8d, 9c8h, 9d8c, 9d8h, 9h8c, 9h8d, 9s8c, 9s8d, 9s8h }

Re: Two pair can suck sometimes
 

that range is retarded... call

Re: Two pair can suck sometimes
 

help me with the range plz? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
edit: I guess if he does this with AJ sometimes it improves your equity enough.

Re: Two pair can suck sometimes
 

I bet pot on the turn with that board and two callers. On the river you are prob beat a lot but its cheap to see so call.

Re: Two pair can suck sometimes
 

His range is going to be a missed draw or made straight almost all the time. Therefore you should call.

Re: Two pair can suck sometimes
 

Raise bigger on the flop, there's lots of draws. Call river and make a note.

Re: Two pair can suck sometimes
 

call