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davebreal 01-22-2007 01:06 PM

5CD - fish alert (LC)
 
Tournament: Pot Limit 5 Card Draw (400/800) (converter)

Hero (15880), Seat 6
BB (23715), Seat 1
UTG (31920), Seat 2
MP (11505), Seat 3
CO (15280), Seat 4
Button (7800), Seat 5

Hero posts 400. BB posts 800.

Hero is SB with [Jh Ad 6d Js 4c]

Round 1: (1200)

<font color="#666666">UTG folds. </font><font color="#666666">MP folds. </font><font color="#666666">CO folds. </font><font color="green">Button calls. </font><font color="red">Hero raises 2400 to 3200. </font><font color="#666666">BB folds. </font><font color="green">Button calls. </font>
Hero discards Ad 6d 4c. Button takes 4.

Hero has [Jh Js Jc 6h Qc]

Round 2: (7200)

<font color="green">Hero checks. </font><font color="red">Button bets 1600. </font><font color="red">Hero raises 10880 to 12480. </font><font color="green">Button calls 2920 (all-in). </font>

Pot: (16240)

Results: (in white)

<font color="white">Total pot 16720 | Rake 0

Button had [As Ac Ah Kd Ts] and won (16720) with three of a kind, Aces.
Hero had [Jh Jc 6h Js Qc] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks.
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SoCalPat 01-22-2007 01:20 PM

Re: 5CD - fish alert (LC)
 
I'm lost ... who's the fish here?

davebreal 01-22-2007 01:32 PM

Re: 5CD - fish alert (LC)
 
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I'm lost ... who's the fish here?

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Button takes 4.

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Big Limpin 01-22-2007 01:58 PM

Re: 5CD - fish alert (LC)
 
what are the chances? especially since you can see one of the aces! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

HarmonicaMan 01-22-2007 02:00 PM

Re: 5CD - fish alert (LC)
 
Well obviously, you're the fish. You should have kept the 6 - then you'd have made a boat.
Always keep a 6.

kurto 01-22-2007 02:02 PM

MY OWN 5CD Fish Experience (no use starting my own low content)
 
Hero Raises with AA44x to $2 after 1 limper.

Villain in the BB (short stack) pushes (he has about $5.50)

Hero calls.

Villain STANDS PAT

Hero draws 1. Doesn't improve. Wins Pot. Villain's cards--- AJ584 no flush, no draw, no pair, no sense.

I have just witnessed the STAND PAT BLUFF when there's no money left to bet!!!!

On a related note- BRAG- I have now called exactly two players who stood pat after a post draw bet (once with 2 pair and once with a set) and won them both. In each case I had reads on both and thought they were full of it. I know we can only speculate but I wonder what percentage of STAND PATs are complete BS?

flafishy 01-22-2007 02:03 PM

Re: 5CD - fish alert (LC)
 
What's with the monster raise postdraw? Not so sure that was such a good play. He's only going to call that huge bet if he lucked into something huge. Just call it down.

davebreal 01-22-2007 02:05 PM

Re: 5CD - fish alert (LC)
 
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What's with the monster raise postdraw? Not so sure that was such a good play. He's only going to call that huge bet if he lucked into something huge. Just call it down.

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how can you project rationale on a player who called off 1/3 of his stack pre-draw with Ace high?

kurto 01-22-2007 02:08 PM

Re: 5CD - fish alert (LC)
 
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What's with the monster raise postdraw? Not so sure that was such a good play. He's only going to call that huge bet if he lucked into something huge. Just call it down.

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BTW- I was at a cash game this weekend with a maniac who was raising every hand he opened and calling every raise. He would call a raise and draw 4 on a regular basis.

Surprisingly he lasted at least 20 minutes at the table.



how can you project rationale on a player who called off 1/3 of his stack pre-draw with Ace high?

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flafishy 01-22-2007 02:18 PM

Re: MY OWN 5CD Fish Experience (no use starting my own low content)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hero Raises with AA44x to $2 after 1 limper.

Villain in the BB (short stack) pushes (he has about $5.50)

Hero calls.

Villain STANDS PAT

Hero draws 1. Doesn't improve. Wins Pot. Villain's cards--- AJ584 no flush, no draw, no pair, no sense.

I have just witnessed the STAND PAT BLUFF when there's no money left to bet!!!!

On a related note- BRAG- I have now called exactly two players who stood pat after a post draw bet (once with 2 pair and once with a set) and won them both. In each case I had reads on both and thought they were full of it. I know we can only speculate but I wonder what percentage of STAND PATs are complete BS?

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Two scenarios I saw over the weekend from players in BB: One called a raise, the other checked a multiway limpfest. In both cases, BB sood pat and then checked it down and showed garbage. Had to assume misclicks were involved somehow in both cases.


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