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Bauertson 08-14-2006 07:20 AM

NL25$ TAG or TAP on the flop
 
Hello, I play on PartyPoker the NL25$. My question is about the style for playing on the flop. I have 67h in late position, and 4 player's are in the play. The 3. Player make a half-pot-size-bet, what are you play (raise, call or fold) with the follow flops:
A) Flop 5h, 8h, Kd (straight-flush-draw)
B) Flop 5h, 8d, Kc (Straight-drawn)
C) Flop Ah, Th, 2d (Flush-Draw)

I'm sorry for my english, but I hope you understand my question ;-)

CaucasianAsian29 08-14-2006 07:31 AM

Re: NL25$ TAG or TAP on the flop
 
Assuming the stacks are approx $25. I raise all of these about Pot + 1/4 of Pot. I like to play draws aggresive.

jakerc 08-14-2006 07:36 AM

Re: NL25$ TAG or TAP on the flop
 
A) raise, theres a lot of people and a raise might be able to fold out a higher flush draw. plus we get value from AK which i think almost always calls a raise on this flop. if we are reraised we happy to get all in.

B) i probably call and try to see a turn. i don't want to get raised off the hand.

C) i could raise or call here. calling will most likely keep us in the hand unless theres a raise. i'd probably especially consider a raise if playing against a fairly tight opponent for two reasons: against a tight villain we have FE against top pair weak kicker or middle pair, and it disguises our flush much better. if we call and the turn hits a heart and we wake up our opponents can get away much easier. if we raise the flop and turn comes a blank we can go for a second barrel if villain checks. i think a lot of people will fold TPTK to a bet on a blank turn after you raised the flop.

im still learning here so i'm not sure how correct my thoughts are. i'd like to see what others have to say also.

avfletch 08-14-2006 08:36 AM

Re: NL25$ TAG or TAP on the flop
 
Is this a raised or limped pot? If raised which player did it and who were the callers?

Bauertson 08-14-2006 08:40 AM

Re: NL25$ TAG or TAP on the flop
 
It's a limping pot preflop, I have no read about the player's.

gimmetheloot 08-14-2006 10:46 AM

Re: NL25$ TAG or TAP on the flop
 
raise all 3.

JackWilson 08-14-2006 10:53 AM

Re: NL25$ TAG or TAP on the flop
 
Raise/Call/Raise.

1. You're raising for value.
2. You call with the straight draw, because of implied odds (usually). A straight draw can be deceptive when it hits so you are likely to extract more value out of this than number 3.
3. You raise because you have some matter of fold equity, but not so much implied odds because you don't get paid off as often with a flush as you do with a straight since a flush is more visible. Raising gives you two ways of winning the pot, which is important with most flush draws.


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