AK heads-up from sb, 130 BB deep
 

BB seems decent (17/14/1.8 over 75 hands) but has inexplicably bluffed off half his stack with air on the previous hand so may be steaming.

You like this line? Too aggressive?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.30
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $37.65
CO: $55.30
Button: $35.05
Hero: $63.90
BB: $38

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.9</font>, BB calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.8, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $4.1</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($10, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $18</font>, BB calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($46, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $40.9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $15</font>.
Uncalled bets: $25.9 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $76

Re: AK heads-up from sb, 130 BB deep
 

Hero folds the flop.

Re: AK heads-up from sb, 130 BB deep
 

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Hero folds the flop.

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Re: AK heads-up from sb, 130 BB deep
 

check raising the turn is pretty bad normally, if you're willing to play for stacks you might as well 3 bet the flop then at least if he 4 bets you can be pretty damn sure you're beat.

Re: AK heads-up from sb, 130 BB deep
 

For me is obvious he is beat on the flop. Why think otherwise? Just because villain bluffed the hand before? But we don't even know how he did it. Did he checkraise? If so - it makes sense, if not - situation is different.

Re: AK heads-up from sb, 130 BB deep
 

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check raising the turn is pretty bad normally, if you're willing to play for stacks you might as well 3 bet the flop then at least if he 4 bets you can be pretty damn sure you're beat.

[/ QUOTE ]So you suggest 3-betting the flop for information? That may be the best move, although it does mean I'm playing a very big pot with one pair, when I'd really prefer to show down.

I'm thinking I'm ahead 80-90% of the time on the flop. Only losing to A7, A5, 55 or 77 (AA or 75 unlikely). I didn't 3-bet because I want to get value from a worse Ace or a bluff, which may fold to a 3-bet. This may be bad logic but that's what I was thinking.

Slava_Sky - how do you think he plays a hand like AT? Isn't this a very good flop for a bluff-raise? This is a great flop for AK heads-up - if you fold to a raise here, you might as well fold pre-flop. I don't mind my flop play although later streets might be questionable.

FWIW he bluffed the previous hand by raising UTG with 85s and firing 3 barrels into 2 people with no pair no draw and was called down by someone who slowplayed QQ pre-flop. I don't think it's massively relevant although I'd certainly be steaming if I were him.

I'm now thinking, maybe a big ace (AK-AJ) re-raises pre-flop, and a smaller Ace will just call this flop, although it's also possible he's raising a smaller Ace for value or to see where he's at. Hard to know really. I think you have to at least call the flop.

Re: AK heads-up from sb, 130 BB deep
 

i like the fact your a thinking player but imo your line is 2 agg on the turn and certainly on the river after he called your turn bet.he might b steaming but he could easily b steaming with A7 A5.

Re: AK heads-up from sb, 130 BB deep
 

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check raising the turn is pretty bad normally, if you're willing to play for stacks you might as well 3 bet the flop then at least if he 4 bets you can be pretty damn sure you're beat.

[/ QUOTE ]So you suggest 3-betting the flop for information? That may be the best move, although it does mean I'm playing a very big pot with one pair, when I'd really prefer to show down.

I'm thinking I'm ahead 80-90% of the time on the flop. Only losing to A7, A5, 55 or 77 (AA or 75 unlikely). I didn't 3-bet because I want to get value from a worse Ace or a bluff, which may fold to a 3-bet. This may be bad logic but that's what I was thinking.

Slava_Sky - how do you think he plays a hand like AT? Isn't this a very good flop for a bluff-raise? This is a great flop for AK heads-up - if you fold to a raise here, you might as well fold pre-flop. I don't mind my flop play although later streets might be questionable.

FWIW he bluffed the previous hand by raising UTG with 85s and firing 3 barrels into 2 people with no pair no draw and was called down by someone who slowplayed QQ pre-flop. I don't think it's massively relevant although I'd certainly be steaming if I were him.

I'm now thinking, maybe a big ace (AK-AJ) re-raises pre-flop, and a smaller Ace will just call this flop, although it's also possible he's raising a smaller Ace for value or to see where he's at. Hard to know really. I think you have to at least call the flop.

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Check raising the turn isn't getting you to showdown cheaply.

Re: AK heads-up from sb, 130 BB deep
 

Do you think I should check-fold the turn?

Re: AK heads-up from sb, 130 BB deep
 

I'd probably check call the turn. If he bets large on the river I seriously doubt your hand is good.