nl200: bvb with an overpair: whats the best turn line?
 

big blind/villain is a 19/14/4.5. how are you playing this turn? why? I can guaruntee anyone advocating any type of passivity on the turn is going to be asked why, so please elaborate if you can.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($498.20)
CO ($195.80)
Button ($454.10)
Hero ($201)
BB ($203)
UTG ($104.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($15) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, BB calls $10.

Turn: ($35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

hero?

Re: nl200: bvb with an overpair: whats the best turn line?
 

bet the turn. its not close.

Re: nl200: bvb with an overpair: whats the best turn line?
 

bet and probably fold to a raise

Re: nl200: bvb with an overpair: whats the best turn line?
 

gotta bet for value and protection here.

Re: nl200: bvb with an overpair: whats the best turn line?
 

ur flop bet is pretty small so u def cant just assume ur beat and board is too dangerous to give a free card bet something near 30-35 and fold to a raise

Re: nl200: bvb with an overpair: whats the best turn line?
 

I think betting more on flop might be a good idea - Anything he is calling $10 with that you want him to call with e.g. a club draw, he is going to call $14 with too. As played if you bet $30 on turn and get raised your queens are probably no good.

Re: nl200: bvb with an overpair: whats the best turn line?
 

fwiw, i think the worst line here is check folding, followed VERY closely by check raising. i think cehck raising is ridiculously bad.

Re: nl200: bvb with an overpair: whats the best turn line?
 

$30

Re: nl200: bvb with an overpair: whats the best turn line?
 

i think check raising is pry worse than checking as it basically commits stacks with a hand that beats nothing but super sick combo draws and AJ but checking also sucks

Re: nl200: bvb with an overpair: whats the best turn line?
 

any more conversation on this? a lot of good players advocated checking the turn and ive heard some valid reason behind it...even for raising after a bet to some extent. bump?