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gobucks27 11-26-2007 09:01 PM

$11 Bad play w/ KJs
 
Table has been playing rather tight lately...Villain has shown to be weak passive..has shown he will make small probe bets but then fold to a raise...This is a case of me being impatient plus trying to run a tight table I guess..How bad is this?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 (t3260)
CO (t5625)
Button (t3054)
SB (t3768)
BB (t3835)
Hero (t2575)
UTG+1 (t3058)
MP1 (t6430)
MP2 (t5890)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls t300, Button calls t300, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t1050) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t500</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1600</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t2754</font>, Hero calls t675 (All-In).

Turn: (t6079) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t6079) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t5600

Luminaire005 11-26-2007 09:26 PM

Re: $11 Bad play w/ KJs
 
That reraise was a bad play considering your short stack. A push would have been more appropriate, but you would have gotten called anyway and the end result would be the same, assuming he had you beat.

tinty 11-26-2007 10:51 PM

Re: $11 Bad play w/ KJs
 
fold pre-flop, you're too short to be raising KJ from utg.the hands that are calling this raise so often have KJ dominated, this is essentially a bluff, i'd much rather have 78 here pre.

check/fold flop, the board is far too coordinated and with two callers behind your 2nd pair/gutshot is not in good shape.

omg im l337 11-26-2007 11:35 PM

Re: $11 Bad play w/ KJs
 
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fold pre-flop, you're too short to be raising KJ from utg.the hands that are calling this raise so often have KJ dominated, this is essentially a bluff, i'd much rather have 78 here pre.

check/fold flop, the board is far too coordinated and with two callers behind your 2nd pair/gutshot is not in good shape.

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henrikjs 11-27-2007 12:00 AM

Re: $11 Bad play w/ KJs
 
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fold pre-flop, you're too short to be raising KJ from utg.

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Jesuitical 11-27-2007 12:07 AM

Re: $11 Bad play w/ KJs
 
If you're CERTAIN CO doesn't have a hand because he checked and Villain is betting, like, his entire range here, you probably have enough equity if called (and FE) for a CRAI (keeping in mind that the button's range is wider here as the second caller in position, and that if you're opening K-J UTG on a consistent basis you probably have the kind of image that widens their ranges even further).

I'm just playing Devil's advocate, though. One thing to remember is that if CO checked, say, the nut flush draw here knowing that he won't get priced out of his draw by the button, he's rarely folding here, because he has a ton of equity with that draw if he's up against two callers, and even against one he's getting a pretty good price. The same goes for the button.


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