10/20 nl --- river decision 200 bb deep
 

Villian is bad like 42/15. my image is fairly solid and im like god damnit wtf on this river.

notice we are deep.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1,642.50
Hero (BB): $4,518.00
UTG: $3,701.50
MP: $2,147.00
CO: $1,970.00
BTN: $2,221.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $70.00</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls $50.00

Flop: ($150) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $70.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $320.00</font>, UTG calls $250.00

Turn: ($790) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $671.00</font>, UTG calls $671.00

River: ($2132) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero ...?</font>,

2.6k eff on river. do i dare check and lose value to AA QQ KJ etc hands. or do i play pot control and check call? do i check fold ever??? what about bet fold? if so how much?

Re: 10/20 nl --- river decision 200 bb deep
 

i would bet 1400 and prob call a shove.

Re: 10/20 nl --- river decision 200 bb deep
 

I'd get a little more money in on the first two streets so I had &lt; a PSB left on the river.

As played.. ugh.

B/f is rough, since it's kind of transparent, but the nice odds the pot will be laying you might prevent him from bluffing, and he'll probably still call a small bet with at least AA and KJ, and could well pay off with QQ/AJ, but might fold all of these hands to a big bet.

If you check, I think you need to fold, every draw got there and I think he checks behind most everything you beat that's not a bluff. Maybe call a small bet, hoping he's going for thin value with KJ or something.

Re: 10/20 nl --- river decision 200 bb deep
 

How bad is villain? I just don't see many people calling you here with worse if you're fairly solid.

Re: 10/20 nl --- river decision 200 bb deep
 

i think i would bet fold for $1k or so

Re: 10/20 nl --- river decision 200 bb deep
 

Thin bet/fold here looks OK. Kh disgusting river card, you're beat here pretty often. I can't imagine too many hands you beat that he would value if you check.

Re: 10/20 nl --- river decision 200 bb deep
 

Ya it's really between b/f and c/f here, both being very reasonable. Given villain, I'd lean towards b/f, probably around 1k or so as Praetor said.