50NL KK get donked into on paired board flop... Help on all streets
 

Villain is 29/9/1 after about 30 hands

I really didn't know what his flop bet meant and then got lost... help needed all streets please.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($103.25)
Button ($38.20)
SB ($62.90)
BB ($37.70)
UTG ($49)
UTG+1 ($49.50)
MP1 ($33.70)
MP2 ($53.70)
MP3 ($14.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, MP1 calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.75) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $2, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($8.75) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $5, Hero calls $5.

River: ($18.75) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $10, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $18.75

Re: KK get donked into on paired board flop... Help on all streets
 

I'd raise that flop bet to $8 or so to find out what it means and fold to heavy resistance. If he bet out strong on turn I'd probably give up. If checked to on turn, I'd check behind and call a reasonable river bet.

Re: KK get donked into on paired board flop... Help on all streets
 

i never fold this river.

Re: KK get donked into on paired board flop... Help on all streets
 

A lot of time his flop bet is a draw of some sort (in this case a flush). It looks like he is trying to set the price to draw.

I would raise the flop to about $8, then check behind the turn and hope to fill up or flush out on the river.

I don't think that he would lead the A again on the turn if he filled up there, so it looks like you have 10 outs.

As played, fold river.

Re: KK get donked into on paired board flop... Help on all streets
 

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i never fold this river.

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What are you putting him on that he bets into us flop, turn, and river, that we beat.....3x, JJ?

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Yea Im always raising this flop, if checked to on that turn I probably check behind and probably call most bets on the river. If he bets the turn hard I probably let this go

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i never fold this river.

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What are you putting him on that he bets into us flop, turn, and river, that we beat.....3x, JJ?

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did not see the 3rd heart on the turn. fold river is fine. i raise the flop, i don't raise the turn.

Re: KK get donked into on paired board flop... Help on all streets
 

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I'd raise that flop bet to $8 or so to find out what it means and fold to heavy resistance. If he bet out strong on turn I'd probably give up. If checked to on turn, I'd check behind and call a reasonable river bet.

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I don't really see much of a point of raising the flop here. He is probably betting with a naked A, a PP that you have crushed or he has a Q. Given all those scenarios you aren't giving up much by allowing this to be a cheap street.

Against this guy my flop plan is that I would continue to call as long as a third heart of an A doesn't come. When he bets that turn card also I don't think you are ahead enough to commit. I fold the turn unless you have a read that he will be overly aggressive on paired boards.

If you call the turn it is because you think he is betting an underpair, which I don't think is that likely. However, if he is aggressive enough to bet it on the turn then he probably is aggressive enough to bet it on the river so you should call.

Re: KK get donked into on paired board flop... Help on all streets
 

Fold turn probably.

Re: KK get donked into on paired board flop... Help on all streets
 

raise the flop, fold the turn. you played this hand pretty bad. A got there, flash got there, so fold there.