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HarriSeldon 11-04-2007 12:50 PM

Re: Loose-passive winning poker
 
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wtf are his stats? what a dumb thread. if you dont elaborate on his style wtf do you want anyone to tell you?

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Why the f are you reading and commenting this if it's so dumb. I was just confused how it was possible to play winning poker with this style. I don't have his stats available but remember he had VP$IP >40 and AF <1. Hoped that someone could come up with a reasonable explanation to this. And to you I just wanna say: Go f. yourself!

futuredoc85 11-04-2007 05:51 PM

Re: Loose-passive winning poker
 
well there is a diff b/w a 40/25/.8 and a 40/5/.8. Also part of the reason could just be because people suck at deepstacked poker and bluff him too much and dont valuebet him hard enough

donkeykong2 11-04-2007 07:11 PM

Re: Loose-passive winning poker
 
at 15/30c there are players folding any flop to a cbet if they dont have at least top pair after calling with all kinds of garbage preflop, you dont have to be good to be a winner against these guys.

poker12 11-04-2007 10:11 PM

Re: Loose-passive winning poker
 
the reason he wins....is because it's 30nl

Albert Moulton 11-06-2007 12:17 AM

Re: Loose-passive winning poker
 
It actually makes some sense that he is making some profit at low-level, short handed no-limit games.

Short-handed play generally favors aggression since most players will miss most flops. Since the blinds come around so fast, you can't sit back and wait for good hands without getting blinded out. On the other hand, if you only play fit-or-fold post flop, then you'll usually get robbed blind since you miss the flop (which you usually will).

Even on-line players at low levels know that "aggression" pays off. They just don't know how or why to temper their aggression post-flop.

So, if your friend sits down with a bunch of inexperienced players who are all TAGing, SLAGing, and LAGGing each other, then playing loose passive might work if the others don't adjust properly post flop. So, where 2- and 3-barrel bluffs with missed overcards and draws are usually good plays vs other aggressive players, vs a loose-passive with TPTK or better, those plays are just so much money down the drain.

So, my guess is that your friend is playing with guys who pay him off too much with ill-timed aggression on later streets because they fail to adjust to his unusual style of passive short-handed play.

At higher levels with better players, he won't make much past the flop unless he's up against a bigger hand that beats him for his stack. And he'll lose too much calling preflop raises. His only wins will be from small-to-medium sized pots that he calls or bets at post flop where the better players will simply fold. He will win too little when he wins, lose too much when he loses, and pay too much to see the flop.

But, if it's working at the level he's playing, then more power to him. Just as long as he knows that it's not a long-term winning strategy as he moves up.


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