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docnuclear 11-21-2007 10:52 AM

400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep
 
I'm standard tag 21/18/3 villain is TakeUrCheese 16/13/3 reg

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $658.80
BTN: $608.50
SB: $390
Hero (BB): $581.10
UTG: $420.20

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $16</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $60</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $155</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?

DanJ. 11-21-2007 10:54 AM

Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep
 
shove, next hand.

Vavavoom 11-21-2007 10:55 AM

Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep
 
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shove, next hand.

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Or call &amp; Shove non-A flop

ogdundar 11-21-2007 11:26 AM

Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep
 
Unless he has seen you 3/4-bet light and possibly 5-bet without AA/KK, i suggest you call and get it all-in postflop on most non-A flops. 16/13 regs don't like to get it in pre with AK and QQ for 150BBs.

Bikini Wax 11-21-2007 11:41 AM

Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep
 
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shove, next hand.

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docnuclear 11-21-2007 12:27 PM

Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep
 
OK I know this is not the first thread with this type of hand, but I was wondering, as odgundar said if 150 BB deep there is more value in shoving seeing that we won't be called too often by QQ and AK or if shoving is mainly to prevent us from the times an A flops and there is a ton of money into the pot???

Suwalski 11-21-2007 01:29 PM

Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep
 
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OK I know this is not the first thread with this type of hand, but I was wondering, as odgundar said if 150 BB deep there is more value in shoving seeing that we won't be called too often by QQ and AK or if shoving is mainly to prevent us from the times an A flops and there is a ton of money into the pot???

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We shove because we have the nuts. You could also just 5bet to 365 or so, perhaps it might give him the illusion that we are weak and he will stack of lighter.

JFsports 11-21-2007 01:40 PM

Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep
 
I would get it in preflop. Villain is decent, and smooth-calling his 4-bet would look very strong. Obviously 5-betting can't look weak, but it's hard to see AK just calling a 4-bet OOP.

Some9 11-21-2007 02:18 PM

Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep
 
I think I fold this vs this villain



lol no.
I think $360&gt;shove because it can make him kinda suspicious with AKs or QQ.


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