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CalledDownLight 11-04-2007 03:34 AM

Re: KK hand vs. 2p2er
 
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lol @ calling bt2 a nits.

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Do you play against the same guy I do? Are you leveling me? He's the tightest 2p2er that I play against. This includes jessy "muck middle set to a cbet" j.

rdrr 11-04-2007 03:36 AM

Re: KK hand vs. 2p2er
 
I have him at 16.5/15.5/2.2 over ~1700 hands

CalledDownLight 11-04-2007 03:44 AM

Re: KK hand vs. 2p2er
 
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I have him at 16.5/15.5/2.2 over ~1700 hands

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Thats a really big difference. This is weird.

Setzy 11-04-2007 03:45 AM

Re: KK hand vs. 2p2er
 
This hand is QQ just as often as AA. When you call the flop you're basically committing to the hand anyhow, so I would go on and check-raise the flop to $100 and call an allin. As played just put it in on the turn, the last thing you want to see is a scare card on the river. Just of note...this line gets better value out of AK (if you think he's gonna double-barrel AK here), but comes with more risk obviously.

Renton 11-04-2007 06:14 AM

Re: KK hand vs. 2p2er
 
c/r flop is a mistake. c/r turn.

ASPoker8 11-04-2007 06:40 AM

Re: KK hand vs. 2p2er
 
BT2 is not a nit, not even close, he is one of the more aggressive full ringers (besides Renton (i hate you renton))

But yeah like I said, stick it in on the turn yo

BigDan9 11-04-2007 08:21 AM

Re: KK hand vs. 2p2er
 
I don't know the dude (I don't play Party) but seems to me like the two obvious moves are: Option A) open shove on the turn; or Option B) c/c twice (unless the river's an A or Q).

There seems to be a debate about what this guy is capable of, but if Villain is LAG Option A seems good. There's a much better chance you're ahead and you don't want him to get a free card against the wider range (AJ, AK, TT etc) you're beating.

If he really is a nit, I'd prefer Option B. I find it difficult to imagine a nit would 3-bet pf and then double barrel with anything other than AA or QQ here. Still, the chips are probably going in either way so I wonder if it really makes much difference how it's played on the turn and river...

TopThis 11-04-2007 11:15 AM

Re: KK hand vs. 2p2er
 
add me to the shove turn > call/call a blank river > fold camp

I have him at ~16/15/4 and from past hands, his range is def more than just AA here.


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