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ssmallz 03-21-2007 02:03 PM

Look into my oppoenants soul and tell me what he holds
 
Can my opponent have anything other than flush?

This was a hand that I really thought nothing about untill I discussed it w/another 2p2er. He had some interesting thoughts on it and I'm starting to be inclined to agree. Folding this river is not something I would do routinely, just against this specific player or type of player, in this particular hand.

My opponent is a multitabling TAG 27/21 and plays pretty strait foward. I haven't noticed anything spectacular outta him or anything odd. He might even be on of you guys.

Villain open raises in sb, I defend my bb w/JTo

Flop Q89 2 diamonds

Villain bets, I call

Turn offsuit brick

Villain bets, I raise, villain calls

River 6d

I bet villain c/r's I yell and scream at the computer and call like the showdown monkey I am.

So read villains hand. What can he possibly have aside from a flush? No other hand makes sense

Flush - makes perfect sense and is comletely sensible with his play.

1 pair - Never c/r's here b/c he's gotta be afraid of a number of things

2 pair - he's gotta be scared from the turn raise and that river is the worst card for him to c/r

Set - Set would def 3 bet the turn or check call the river. No reason for him to c/r the river w/a set, unless its 66. But 66 has no business calling the turn raise and is unlikely to have made it to the river against this guy

Strait - If he's got JT he'd prolly 3bet the turn. If he doesn't c/r the turn, only explanation is for him to c/r a non diamond board. When the diamond hits, isn't it very unlikely he c/r's here? He'd def c/c.

Air - This is the only hand that makes sense for villain to hold that I beat. Do we think he has AJ or some missed draw often enough to bluff c/r the river? Seems like a bad spot to try it in a protected pot.

So what does he have? Can I fold this river

danzasmack 03-21-2007 02:14 PM

Re: Look into my oppoenants soul and tell me what he holds
 
7T or 57 aren't in there at all? I agree on all other hands evaluation.

WillyT 03-21-2007 02:17 PM

Re: Look into my oppoenants soul and tell me what he holds
 
If he's reasonable there are a lot of hands he can have that you beat such as T7 and lots of 2 pair or set hands that didn't want to blow you off what could very well be a moderate holding on the turn. c/r'ing a scare card river with a pretty good hand is a good play. It's not like he really has to fear you having the flush since this is a HU pot the whole way.

I'm not saying you're ahead here more than 50% after the c/r, but still way more than in enough of the time to call in my experience.

-WT

ssmallz 03-21-2007 02:18 PM

Re: Look into my oppoenants soul and tell me what he holds
 
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7T or 57 aren't in there at all? I agree on all other hands evaluation.

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Hmm, T7 maybe but he did raise pf so I tend to down play 57. Also lets not forget calling my turn raise w/57 is pretty bad and this guys is fairly solid

WillyT 03-21-2007 03:00 PM

Re: Look into my oppoenants soul and tell me what he holds
 
The guy is probably raising 57s preflop, but he'd have to have the flush draw to call the turn.

ssmallz 03-21-2007 04:28 PM

1 small change
 
While looking over the HH, I noticed that I missed a detail or 2. So the pf action went MP limper, sb completed, and I checked.

Flop 89Q, sb bets, I call, MP folds.

Rest of hand is the same.

danzasmack 03-21-2007 04:31 PM

Re: 1 small change
 
Oh then i take 57 out of his range, but keep T7 in there for sure.

WuTank 03-21-2007 04:47 PM

Re: 1 small change
 
I think you have to call here, but i am also just a sd monkey.
Btw do you consider 27/21 to be tight?

danzasmack 03-21-2007 04:52 PM

Re: 1 small change
 
If calling this c/r here makes me a showdown monkey then i'm [censored] king kong

Scary_Tiger 03-21-2007 04:57 PM

Re: 1 small change
 
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If calling this c/r here makes me a showdown monkey then i'm [censored] king kong

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BTW, T7, post over.


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