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OSUGreg1983 11-15-2007 05:07 AM

Warning micro micro: Gross turn and river
 
villain is 29/0/0.33 over 40 hands

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $13.75
MP: $10
CO: $6.11
BTN: $15.80
Hero (SB): $5.18
BB: $3.44

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.03, BB checks

Flop: ($0.20) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.15</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $0.15, MP calls $0.15

Turn: ($0.65) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.55</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $0.55

River: ($1.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.20</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $4.20</font>, Hero rolls his eyes

Nemesis69 11-15-2007 05:09 AM

Re: Warning micro micro: Gross turn and river
 
I call here.. I think there is more chance that villian is overvaluating his 2 pair then that he has a runner runner flush or straight..

Lego05 11-15-2007 05:13 AM

Re: Warning micro micro: Gross turn and river
 
Assuming that raise isn't all-in then I shove.

2 pair is much more likely than a straight or a flush.

OSUGreg1983 11-15-2007 05:21 AM

Re: Warning micro micro: Gross turn and river
 
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Assuming that raise isn't all-in then I shove.

2 pair is much more likely than a straight or a flush.

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I was able to go back into PT and find stats on villain.

29/0/0.33 over 40 hands

Does this change our decision?

And the raise was not all in.

kroeliewoelie 11-15-2007 05:33 AM

Re: Warning micro micro: Gross turn and river
 
How is this turn gross?

On the river it is obvious he has AhJh. This guy has a talent for rivering royals.

Anyway I pot the flop, since we are 4 handed. If somebody calls your current bet, then they will call a pot bet. Turn may give people some draws. Pot it again. On the river I call his raise, because both draws that are completed are backdoor draws. AF is meaningless given sample size.

OSUGreg1983 11-15-2007 05:37 AM

Re: Warning micro micro: Gross turn and river
 
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How is this turn gross?

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On the river it is obvious he has AhJh. This guy has a talent for rivering royals.

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vixticator 11-15-2007 05:40 AM

Re: Warning micro micro: Gross turn and river
 
Call and expect to see 2 pair most of the time. If this is some kind of backdoor straight or flush, whatever.

kroeliewoelie 11-15-2007 05:44 AM

Re: Warning micro micro: Gross turn and river
 
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How is this turn gross?

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On the river it is obvious he has AhJh. This guy has a talent for rivering royals.

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Seems irony is hard to communicate across the internet. But anyway this turn isn't gross. Do you call any two tone flop gross? On the river the board gets nasty. But not on the turn.

ShipitFMA 11-15-2007 05:48 AM

Re: Warning micro micro: Gross turn and river
 
Hi, stop playing every hand you get coolered.

Yours sincerely,

Twoplustwo.

Nemesis69 11-15-2007 05:50 AM

Re: Warning micro micro: Gross turn and river
 
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Hi, stop posting every hand you get coolered.

Yours sincerely,

Twoplustwo.

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FYP. np [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]


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